Fade-to-Black Episode 690

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Fade-to-Black Episode 690

Rob Potter Interview with Jimmy Church on Fade to Black:ET Contact: A Frame of Reference

July 18, 2017

YouTube: Ep. 690 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/Rob Potter: ET Contact, Valient Thor, Dr. Fred Bell: LIVE


Published on July 19, 2017


Jimmy Church: Today’s Tuesday, July 18, 198 days into the new year, just 167 left. We are live from a bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank, California.

And I would like to welcome everybody listening all around the world, all across the United States, hither and tither, to and fro, back and forth, up and down, east and west, north and south, far and near. This is Fade to Black. For KJCR, the Game-Changer Network and KGRA, the Planet, I’m your host, Jimmy Church.

What is crackin’ everybody? Are you ready? Nothin’ like a Tuesday in the bunker.

That’s right, tonight, continuing a first-time guest, weeks and weeks on the show, tonight, Rob Potter is here.

We’re going to discuss the Cobra message, the Galactic Federation of Light, Valient Thor, and Dr. Fred Bell, and Dr. Frank Stranges. Gonna have it all happen tonight on the show. Get ready.

You know, Rob got his own show. He does this a lot, and it’s really cool to have another show host on and somebody that is a contactee like himself and experiencer, with a message – all of that, right? And I get to turn it around. How cool is that.

So that’s what we’re going to do tonight.


Jimmy Church: This week and next week, nothing but first-time guests here on Fade to Black. We do so many shows. And to be able to seek out and get those out there that have never been on the show before, it’s special to me, it’s special to you, and tonight we’re going to continue that with Rob Potter.

I don’t know why we’ve taken so many years to get Rob on the show. He’s busy doing his own radio shows and traveling the world and all that stuff, but we have him here tonight. Very excited.

Rob also was very close to Dr. Frank Stranges, who wrote “Stranger at the Pentagon”, one of the great books. He was a personal assistant and good friend of Dr. Fred Bell from the age of 16 until Dr. Bell’s death. And he is currently working closely with fellow contactee named Cobra to prepare people for the Event.

At 22, Rob was invited to the desert by the Ascended Master, Halarion, via Gabriel Greene, to meet a teacher. The teacher was one of ETs original Earth military allies. He experienced his first physical contact with three witnesses present. Subsequently, Rob met several ETs in person.

Rob has done many radio, newspaper interviews and travels around the world sharing the profound aspects of the on-going process we know as the interplanetary cultural exchange.

He continues to share the good news, the spiritual transformation and the healing of Earth. He is close to the pulse of space family messages to the people of Earth and shares the plan of liberation and offers a positive message of love and faith and action.

His website, of course, is www.thepromiserevealed.com. Those links are over at www.JimmyChurchRadio.com

And I would like to welcome for the first time to Fade to Black, Rob Potter.
Rob, good evening, my friend. How are you?

Rob Potter: Good, Jimmy. Thanks for having me on. It’s an honor and a pleasure.

Jimmy: Let’s get this out of the way first, which is our first time guest disclaimer, which is Rob, this is you and I sitting on my couch, talking as friends. And where the conversation starts it starts and where it ends it ends, but we’re going to end as friends. There you go.

Are you ready?

Rob: I’m ready, bro. Thank you.

Jimmy: Now, you’ve been doing this for a long time, and I don’t know how much you want to get into Dr. Bell. Well, actually more about, if you want to take it as far as his death, because his death was, I still think, extremely strange.

And I would like to get into that, but you met him such a long time ago. And can you take me back . . . What led you to him, I guess, is the question? Were you having contact experiences before Dr. Bell?

Rob: No, no. And I’m like a junior level contactee, although I have had . . . I’ve met ETs in person.

The story goes, I was very into metaphysics and into pyramids and spiritual information in high school. And I was talking with someone, and a friend of mine says, “Are you into pyramids? I know the pyramid man.”

And I was like, “The pyramid man? Well, let me get to know him too.”

And I went up to his house, and he was out, but he came in shortly afterwards with his first 50 gold pyramids that he every made. And the story goes, he had a very powerful childhood, and he has a lineage of scientists.

His great-uncle invented a telephone. And his father invented the automatic transmission of the alternator for Henry Ford.

Fast forward to 15, he is invited to go to the University of Michigan to study the shockwave of the atomic bomb because he’s such a genius.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: The military grabs him at day one of his 17th birthday, and they basically conscripted him, which was technically illegal. But they took him out to UC-Santa Barbara, where he got a PhD in physics.

And he learned a lot at the University of Michigan. They had a linear collider there. And he saw the Wilson Cloud Chamber and got a lot of ideas.

So the military trains him from 18 to like I think he was 21 or something, and he had been trained in the very strong and most powerful radar at the time. And he was in charge of the entire electronic maintenance of this radar set. It was at Point Reyes, California, which is the farthest western most looking point except for Alaska and Hawaii.

And they were observing UFOs coming in during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I guess he was 20 then. Yeah, so he was born in ’43. So Cuban Missile Crisis ’63, and they’re burning the DDS 332s, the standard UFO reports.

And he kind of gets upity and, you know, everyone kind of had an attitude with him because he’s 20 years old, and he’s the boss of the entire radar set, technically speaking.

Jimmy: Right, right.

Rob: At 20. And he’s a triple Leo with a attitude rising anyway, and so they finally set him up and they go, “He was complaining again.” They said, “People have a right to know.” And he was spitting out codes about transparency and they said, “Bell, have you seen a UFO?”

And he goes, “You know, we all have.”

So they brought in the guys with the white suits. They put him in a straight jacket and took him to a crazy farm there for the base.

Then he said, “Look, tell ’em I want an honorable discharge and we’ll move on.” And he did.

He ended up going to meet an Indian guru who had an ashram on Haight and Waller and actually all of the people that followed this guy – they called him “Father” – went to Haight-Ashbury. This was the Love, Power teacher guru who said, “Hey, why not have music festivals in the park?”

The whole Hippy Movement in Haight and Ashbury was from this teacher who was spreading a lot of high energy information. So Fred learned from him.

And I’ll never forget, Fred said, “I learned more from this guy than all my science teachers.” And he never spoke a word.

Well, he spoke, but when I met him, he was older and I never heard the guy talk. He just smiled and laughed.

Jimmy: Wow.

Rob: From there, Fred ended up working on the Saturn, Gemini and Apollo missions under – and I don’t know the order, but – JPL, Rockwell and directly with NASA at one point.

And he told me – you know there’s a little thing there I’ve said in other radio shows; I won’t go into it – but he complained about shoddy wiring, got fired, and then the guys died on the Cape. They came back on their knees asking him to run the protocols for check out. He took his check and left and went into the private sector after NASA.

But he told me at the Long Beach hangar when he was working at, I want to say JPL, but a little probe would come at the end of every day . . . A spaceship would like hang above the hangar, and a little probe would come out from it and circle all over the modules that they were working on. So he was familiar with the UFOs.

And after he ended up with his Indian teacher, he was handed off to a Tibetan adept. Some people might know him from the Great White Brotherhood teachings. His name was Daralkool.

And then he actually handed him off to the Pleiadians. And that’s about the time I met him.

He was having contacts with a Billy Meier person named Semjase.

And we were in touch with Col. Wendelle Stevens. So I’m like 17 years old. I’m voraciously reading Billy Meier’s contact notes hot off the press. As soon as Stevens gets them, he sends them to us.

So I was getting this information on the Pleiadians in ’74 and ’75. So I had an early introduction.

Fred was a profound man and had a lot of information on pyramids. He wrote a brilliant book called, “Rays of Truth, Crystals of Light”.

Jimmy: Now, this was at his famous house in Laguna?

Rob: Oh, yeah.

Jimmy: And so in 1975, Dr. Fred Bell house in Laguna Beach must have been the place to be, no doubt, right?

Rob: Well, yeah, it was amazing. We started out with these pyramids and the Pleiadians were giving him different designs. And I would build them.

He’d give me a jig and explain what we’re doing and I was making these pyramid systems.

And the other thing that they . . . that was very powerful that they got us into was crystals and lasers.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: I was shooting lasers into crystals in like 1974-75. It’s unheard of. He actually had me make, and I’m no electrician, but he made it real simple. He bought all the schematics and bought the pieces, and this was before . . . well, no there was probably solid-state, but this was a breadboard. I was just building it. I put in the fuses, and we built this laser system that had four different settings.

And I go, “Who are these for? What is this?”

It had alpha, beta, delta and – I’m trying to think of another one, but he said, “I’m sending these out to people around the world. We’re going to initiate laser healing.”

We sent one to Germany. We sent one to MIT. We sent one to Stanford. We sent one to Germany, or to Japan. He knew the Honda people from his dad’s contacts, and they knew him. He would work his consulting and some advanced technologies for airlines as well as Navy.

I remember he had a Navy brigadier captain, or whatever they . . . admiral. A brigadier admiral would come to the house. And he’s in charge of 10,000 men and an aircraft carrier. And the guys were getting sick below deck.

So Fred created a negative ionization machine. I build a bunch of them. They put them in these aircraft carriers – I think the Navy duplicated the technology – so that the electrostatic charge beneath the water would be rectified by this electronic air purification, because the ionization affects the moods.

So he was very powerful in giving this information about lasers, and now, everyone has lasers for healing your knees and stuff. And then also air purification. We started air purification back in the mid-70s as well and everyone picked up on it. But that’s part of the life force in pyramid technology.

He was a bundle of information. That book goes into the science of time-travel, mathematics. How it can do it.

He was always gathering new information from the Pleiadians, and eventually the Pleiadians handed him off to the Andromedans.

So I used to have telepathic communication, or he did, with the Andromedans. I could ask questions, and the information that was coming through, he would give me some quotes of some of the teachings he had, and they were mouthfuls of metaphysical information in regards to the evolution of mankind and our past history.

So this is a modern day version of contact, which has been going on on the planet for . . . you know, I can say hundreds of thousands of years.

But as you know from the Mohammad Accords, and Corey’s . . . we’ve kind of been out of the loop, and the quarantine situation for almost 30,000 years.

So it’s a complex political situation, but I’d like to lend a calm voice of assurance to those people who are worried about different things. Nothing’s going to happen. This plan will go forward.

The different Superfederation, 40 groups, and the benevolent extraterrestrial forces will see to it that this planet survives.

Now, people die everyday, and there’s maybe some Earth changes that take place mildly, but the intent is for mankind to awaken from our slumber, so-to-speak, and to learn who we are, where we came from, what our purpose in life is, and the true history of the Earth will be revealed to us.

Jimmy: And Fred was part of that message too. And I remember . . . and you can help me out here; you were probably there.

I remember years ago him telling a story – and it just had me so captivated; I was riveted – telling a story about him firing up some type of generator in his backyard and knocking out the power for blocks in both directions, right?

Were you there for that? And was he really that kind of an inventor that was just up there and he knew . . . He had the mad genius, and he was stepping outside of the box. But he was up there building these things.

Were you there to see some of this stuff go down?

Rob: Yeah, I actually built that system in his house, and I still build those systems. But what this was, was the Pleiadians were teaching us about scalar wave technology, which is utilizing pyramids – gold-plated pyramids – in different, what we called ‘pyramidal arrays’ of energy, and we connect them to Tesla coils.

And when you do that, you create a vortex and a portal, literally. You create an artificial time-warp zone, and with your disciplined thoughts, you can actually aide a manifestation.

And that was the reason the Pleiadians gave it to us. They wanted these systems to be built and people to get inside them and to start to work with their subtle consciousness deals, because it amplifies thought forms. Crystals amplify thought forms.

And Samjase said that the quartz crystal is the perfect synthesis of spirit and matter in zero time.

Now, you take a pyramid, and I’ll give you the scientific definition of pyramid, is progressive energy transfer through geometric focusing and dynamic electrical amplification over a measured plane of coordinates.

So we were creating these systems. We hook up a Tesla coil. We had crystals all over the place. We shoot lasers in there, and what this technology does, is this allows you to think prayer and peaceful thoughts for healing the planet. And one person in this technically created system will actually be like a thousand fold.

So they were hoping we could get this like rock concert-type things were people could be focused on positive healing energy or, you know, maybe something like Contact In The Desert, and stuff like that, and it would happen.

Now, in Germany, in [unintelligible], we did a UFO conference there with a guy named Michael Hasemann. He’s quite famous in Germany back in the day. And Samjase’s ship came over the building when Fred was playing the music that was inspired by the spaceship recording – sound of the spaceship.

They cordoned off the town in Germany, and we have a lot of stories like that. So Fred has had the UFOs confirmed by appearing when he speaks or in different locations. Like in Aspen, Colorado, they appeared over Bell’s Peak two days before he was to speak, and, of course, it went from like, you know, 40 people listening to there were over 200 people.

He was always . . . He’s different than some people. He had his own technique of revealing. He wouldn’t talk about like ‘how he met her’, ‘what she looked like’, ‘what the inside of the ship was’, ‘what was going on’.

All he would do was say, “I’ve got this from the Pleiadians”. And he would just explain the technology.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: He left all this stuff out, and he was told to keep a lot of this stuff secret. Like everything that Cobra talks about – the Archons and the mind-control grid – he shared some of that with me, but the extent of it was a real hot potato and could get you in deep trouble at that point in time in the ’70s.

So Fred was a great mentor and guide. And my experience is there. I had a lot of out-of-body experiences in the ’70s. He would call me up. I was a waiter and a lifeguard. He’d call me up like at 11:00 and would say, “The temple’s humming. You’d better get up here.”

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: And I would get up there. I wouldn’t even . . . I’d take off my shoes. I’d light incense. He had three levels. So I’d go to the four corners of each level and light incense, and I’d sit down in the pyramid system and do pranayama and certain breathing techniques, and then the next thing I know, I’d be taken out of my body.

And it was very hard to integrate those words. And he wouldn’t talk about it.

Jimmy: Well, I wanted to ask you this before we hit this break. We’ve got about four minutes.

It turns out that apparently he had a CIA handler. You know where I’m going with this. Did you . . . Up to his death, did he ever mention the CIA or any connections back to Washington? Did he ever talk about that with you?

Rob: Yeah, well, he didn’t have a CIA handler. Fred could exaggerate like nobody’s business.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: But he . . . With what he had really experienced, and what he talked about, it was no exaggeration.

I know the guy. And I’m just going to call him John M. But he used to come all the time, and this guy was a patriot. He worked . . . During the Reagan administration, he would go into Syria and shoot a laser and they’d blow things up.

He’d go to Area 51. He lived around Vegas, and he told me, like there’s a watertower. You go there and there’s an underground train, and you go to Area 51.

He had met ETs and they’d telepath to him, the nice ETs, he said, “Look like no threat to you.”

And he telepathically said to the ET back, he says, “Well, I’m no threat to you.”

Basically, he’s an underling and wasn’t in control because unfortunately the government saw a lot of ETs as hostile – even good guys were taken. And there’s a lot of stories there that aren’t really so friendly.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: John was a good guy. And I knew him, yeah, since I was 20 until Fred’s death. And I will have to say, if we can go to Fred’s death real quick here, but Fred was under a lot of pressure to keep this secret. And he was able to bring out some of his stuff.

In the end he was trying to develop this very advanced healing technology, which utilizes sound, light and color by reading your aura and giving you a feedback of an external sound and a cathode ray tube of noble gases.

And so you would read your aura, give you the proper balance to strengthen you that you . . . I call it “key tones”. And you would lie in a pH balance tub, which is what the Great Pyramid chamber was. It wasn’t a sarcophagus.

It was actually filled with pH water, and initiates would go in there and there would be an activation to amp up the life force in the physical form to connect with the soul. So you would have a firm connection. It’s like an initiation chamber.

And so Fred was trying to develop that. It’s advanced healing.

I want to say all good things. He was drinking a little bit and he wasn’t on the best diet, so I’m not really sure they took him out, because he wasn’t telling that much. He could have come forward, but he didn’t. Everything was very secret with him.

He never violated, “Don’t talk about that protocol.”

Jimmy: Right. So it did seem a little suspicious, though. And it was the timing of it. And so what you’re saying now is you just think it happened, and it was natural, and that he wasn’t taken out?

Rob: Maybe. I’m not sure. I haven’t seen any evidence. It certainly looks suspicious there, but I don’t know. Fred was kind of protected from a lot of things.

There were times he went to Dulce, New Mexico, and the Grays were flying over. This was back in the Gray days in the mid-’80s. Lots of stuff going on there.

And I could go into stories . . . I remember one time we were driving across country and we’d barely leave Los Angeles, and he says, “Rob, pull off here.”

I’m thinking, “What? Fred never pulls off.”

We pulled off the road, and he had telepathically made arrangement to meet a Pleiadian spaceship in the desert near Edwards [Air Force Base].

And I go, “What are we doing here?”

And he goes, “Why don’t you go to sleep.”

And I just dropped like a sack of potatoes.

Jimmy:Okay. Right there. Rob, that’s a perfect . . . We’ve got to take a break. Let’s do it right there.

We’ll pick it up, the “asleep like a sack of potatoes”. We”l pick that up right after this short break.

Our guest tonight, Rob Potter. I’m your host, Jimmy Church. This is Fade to Black. More with Robert after this break. Stay with us.


(Resume: 49:15)

Jimmy: Welcome back. Fade to Black. I’m your host, Jimmy Church, on the Game Changer Network and KGRA, the planets. Follow me on Twitter at JChurchRadio. #F2B is the SandBox.

Twitter’s jumping tonight. And, of course, there are all of the chat rooms over at Spreaker and KGRA if 140 characters isn’t your style. We have every way to stay interactive and live during the show tonight.

Our guest is Rob Potter. And right before the break, Rob, you’re driving with Fred Bell. You’re heading out toward Edwards Air Force Base – so I assume you’re in the desert – and he makes you fall asleep. Boom.

Did he snap his fingers?

Rob: No, no, no. Actually, we were headed to New York to the first Whole Life Expo with a friend of ours named Alan Goldman – the precursor to the Conscious Life and whatever.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: We started off with the National Health Federation with people like Victoria Kavenskas and Pat Flanagan. And Sean David Morton was there.

Fred and . . . We used to sell the pyramids and the various products at the booth and we were headed out there. And we just happened to be going through there.

Now, it comes back, and I found out later that she had landed and taken him for a ride and let him actually pilot the ship.

Now, another story like this with Fred, was in the alignment of 1982. Everyone though, “Oh, big changes when all the planets line up,” and I said, “What’s going to happen?”

And Fred says, “Well, that’s just the . . . The planets will have a pull on our endocrine glands, which will align our thoughts and feelings in a good way.”

So the science of astrology is intimately associated with the movement of the planets. It’s not mystical or dark magic. It’s a science of vibration and alignment and atunement to the endocrine glands, which secrete hormones and cause our feelings.

So the idea is to balance our thoughts and feelings, but there are a lot of things jamming that frequency.

So we’re up on his deck. We’d shot the lasers all night. We’re standing out there, and it’s just me and him. We had a lot of these nights like this. And his wife and kids would be asleep – whichever wife or kid just happened to be in his life at the time.

I knew him from 16 all the way through the four wives and girlfriends and the kids. So I probably have one of the broadest overviews of his life and work.

But I remember he was standing there, and I could see behind him, flashing in and out, a Pleiadian beam ship– the old style, not the Variation Three, not the [unintelligible]or the other time-travel one. The basic old Pleiadian ship came down behind his head and it shot up really quick.

And I was about . . . I said, “Did I see that?” And it came down and it did it again right behind his head.

And I was going to say something to him, and he looked at me like, “Don’t say a word. Just observe.”

And it did it four or five times.

And what that did was it purified the air in Los Angeles for two weeks. I could see almost Santa Barbara Island so much.

So this let’s you know that they actually – all of our pollution and all of our ignorance – there’s a technology . . . The ships could go up and down in our atmosphere and clean it up for us.

And I said, “Well, why don’t they do that?”

And he says, “You know, think about it.”

And so I thought, “Well, you know, a kid makes his room dirty, you don’t come up and clean the kid’s room. He’ll never learn” – as well as the hostile forces that like that type of degradation to our nature.

So I had experiences like that with him. Let me say another one.

He was suppose to speak in Canada, and he came down with the flu. And he came back and he asked me if I’d go up and talk. So I said, “Okay.”

So I get up there, and they were looking for him. And they confiscated a lot of the pyramids and stuff. And I had a radio show.

So I get on the radio show, and I start talking about negative ions and pyramids and healing and this stuff, and this government agent comes on and starts poo-pooing this stuff.

And then the guy goes to break, and he gets a phone call. And he said, “They told me that you can’t speak and they don’t want you on the air.”

He says, “I’ve never had a censored radio interview.” He says, “Wow!”

And I said, “Well, I was surprised too.”

And they basically let us say where I was speaking. And this was in Edmunton, Alberta, Canada, where the big, glass pyramid is.

And we get to the place, and guess what? Only one block had lost its electricity. And it was the building that we were in. And there was about 200 people there. And we had to cancel it, but some people decided to go to dinner.

And then I meet this guy named James.

And he’s kind of a tall guy, blonde hair, very little hair on his skin, and his arms were like marble. I could see into the skin almost. And I got a telepathic hit, “This guy’s special. He’s an ET.”

And so we had dinner, and I sat him next to me, and I kept nodding and telepathically pings going off, and the lady was very sweet, who had paid for everything.

And it kind of didn’t work out because we were censored. The thing was canceled by a suspicious electrical outage in one square block of the building we were at. And I got my first kind of taste of what was happening there.

So I invited James back to my room.

So we finally get into my room. I had a nice room, like the 15th floor or something – nice suite. And so I finally dropped all pretense, and I said, “Hey, James, so where are you from?”

And he smiled sheepishly/ He walks to the window. He pulled back the curtain. He looked up into the stars, and he looked at me, and he says, “Let’s just say we’re kindred spirits.”

Jimmy: Wow!

Rob: Fred told me later on, “Oh, you met James!” And James was from the Pleiades. And Fred had a poem from him when he left, but James was very scared for his life. He was working at Area 51, and other things, with the government, because they wanted to develop good technology so that when we move into this new transition, when the curtain comes down and the rest of the world wakes up to what’s really happening – that we’re not alone, never have been and never will be alone – we’ll be ready.

Fred said James was always very kind of paranoid and worried about that they were going to kill him or take him out.

I said, “Doesn’t he have protection?”

And he goes . . . And he said, “Yes, sort of.”

And I said, “Well, what do you do about the food here?”

And he told me the same thing that Dr. Frank told me later, which verifies to me that this is true.

He said, “Well, they have . . . It’s like a spiral pill. It’s a little white pill. And he takes it before and it supposedly neutralizes the food.”

And he was living at the Housbergs. Now, Margaret Housberg, back . . . this was . . . let me think. This was ’85, ’86. And he said she had something like $443 billion or something. And she was scared to death.

And she had not only Pleiadians, but Grays and other ETs living in this giant estate. And I’m not sure if it was back East. It might have been, but James said that when . . . And these old rich people liked to have really old furniture, fancy, very expensive, right, Louis XIV in his living room.

So James is very sensitive. And this may explain for your guests, so they know . . . You have a ghost apparition. It usually takes place in an older home with older furniture, because the human proteins that store in there after a 100 years, create an ectoplasm that lost spirits or waifs can use to manifest and knock on doors, or, you know, if they’re benevolent, to manifest things as well.

So James said that he didn’t like the vibe in there. He said it had a kind of oric stench. So he would take the mattress out onto the deck. And we make . . . we sell these larger pyramids that he put over his bed.

So that’s kind of an interesting thing. I don’t find out about these things until later – exactly what happened. He wouldn’t talk about these things quite openly. But he was an amazing character.

If I could, we had mentioned, . . . On my website, folks, I’d like to offer all listeners of Jimmy Church’s radio show here, I have a free book – two free books – on my website.

One is about a guy named Alexander Putney, and you’ll see a picture of George Bush, Sr. with Reinhard Gehlen, Josef Mengele, Martin Bormann, in 1938, when he was like 18 or 19. And it’s called, “The Veil of Invisibility”. You can download that for free.

I also have another free book there – go under Products, to the bottom at Books, go to the books, pick on the Free Books, download them – by Ingo Swan, who the military had remote view the Moon in the early ’70s. And that’s an interesting story. But read that book. Those are for free. And I hope you enjoy those. And that’s my gift to your listeners, Jimmy, on ThePromiseRevealed.com.

Jimmy: Yeah, thank you for that man. And that’s really cool. And I really appreciate that for all the Fadernauts. Just click on the link right there at JimmyChurchRadio.com. Head over to ThePromiseRevealed.com and get yourself those downloads courtesy of Rob. Thank you for that.

While you were just speaking there, I just got an email in real time about Dr. Bell. Going back to this, it says, “Jimmy, in Jesse Ventura’s conspiracy theory shows, he’s in three episode two. The show begins with Jesse meeting Fred Bell secretly in a parking garage where Dr. Bell explains the death ray technology.

“When asked by Jesse how he knew about this technology, Dr. Bell stated, ‘I helped develop it’. Dr. Bell ended up dead two days after the interview while still in town. Coincidents? Probably not.”

Now, that’s from one of the Fadernauts. I didn’t want to bring this up, but . . .

Rob: It’s okay.

Jimmy: . . . I remember hearing all of this at that time, and I jumped into . . . I might have even seen the clip of Jesse Ventura and trying to reach the CIA, or something, on the phone about this whole thing.

Did he mention to you about any development of a death ray or that technology?
And he goes, “Hold on a second, Alan.” And he pushes a button and he puts him on speaker phone. He wanted me to hear it, because he called me “the witness” in a lot of things.

So Alan Holt, who built the lunar lift-off module, said, “Fred, we’d like you to come to downtown Los Angeles. We’re having a Star Wars’ scientists meeting. I’m working with Reagan. We definitely would like to have you on that.”

Fred said something about NASA in the old days and how you’re doing, and he says, “You know, Alan, I don’t even . . . I don’t do that any more.”

Now, Alan built that lift-off module which works pretty much in the vacuum. There is a light atmosphere on the Moon, but it doesn’t . . . so that was one thing.

Now when he left NASA, he realized there was a very advanced oscilloscope in Japan. So Fred bought the United States rights, and he was head of . . . He said his companies were worth $25 million at one point.

And he was going around to all the underground bases, which were in development back in the late ’60s.

And they would bring him in to test all of their equipment. So he had an advanced oscilloscope, and, I think, for five years he was running to underground bases here and there, and he was an expert in lasers and optics.

And one of his jobs was when the Soyuz and the American docking took place.

So he was very involved in precision time-clock and measurements. So where those two spaceships could, or space modules, could leave the atmosphere and meet exactly, and then they’d guide them in the last few seconds and lock and shake hands.

And the Pleiadians were actually there watching that, and Billy Meier was in a cloaked spaceship when that happened.

But Fred helped develop that guidance, so he had very high chops, and I remember him getting one of those very advanced printers in the late ’80s that was just so complicated with so many moving parts that they guy came out three times and couldn’t fix it.

And Fred goes, “Rob, come here.” He says, “Get up here.”

I get up to . . . and he pulled the thing apart himself with his tool kit, and I can’t imagine how many screws and parts were moving, and he fixed the thing without a book.

He was just a genius that way – mechanical engineer. I gave his horoscope to . . . Every person who saw his horoscope said, “This guy’s a physicist. He’s got laser focus. His Mercury is off the chart. He’s a genius.”

The show was a little staged there. He met Jesse. I’m sure he met Jesse. He wasn’t like beneath the parking garage. That was just a little bit of theater.

But Jesse was revealing a lot of stuff and they wouldn’t allow it to be published. They told the cabal stations, “If you publish this, you’re in trouble. You can’t do it.”

So it never got published. But, I love Fred Bell. I’m carrying on his legacy with his products the best I can, and sharing the information about pyramids and stuff.

I’ve had some dreams with him when I was in Egypt and stuff – not as often as I’d like, but . . .

Jimmy: Yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit about Egypt, too. I’m holding up my [unintelligible] pyramid to everybody here in the camera – for the bunker camera. I’ve got so many pyramids around here. And there’s nothing like Egypt, and we’ll jump into that.

You mentioned Dr. Frank just a bit ago. How did you meet Frank Stranges?

Rob: Well, back in 1979, when Fred started talking about pyramids. I was into spiritual stuff like the Babaji and Yogananda, and meditation.

I actually felt that the technology of the world’s a mess, and we should get back to like Native Americans and that kind of stuff.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: And Fred started talking about UFOs and I met this guy named Michael Ellegion, who’s an interesting psychic kind of guy, and he was very familiar with the Space Brotherhood. And he lived in my house for a month, and I became pretty much an expert in understanding . . .

He introduced me to an Omnec Onec tape in ’78 or ’79. That’s the lady from Venus that Wendelle Stevens brought out, who I’ve had at one of my conferences – Just a pure, sweet, loving woman. Taught me a lot of stuff.

And we were at some thing and I saw Dr. Frank Stranges with a guy named Daniel Fry, who worked at White Sands, New Mexico. And these were some of the original contactees in the modern day extraterrestrial push.

They had spoken to the governments in ’56 when Valient Thor landed at the Pentagon and offered help in science technology, transportation, free energy, replicators – the whole nine yards.

And Eisenhower and Nixon came in to shake his hand and said, “Well, I have to talk with my advisers.”

Wait a minute. You’re Ike, the most powerful general and the leader of the free world and you have to ask people?

So basically, he took it to the Cabal, or the money people, and they said their excuse, after three years when they rejected this offer, was, “It would destroy the economic system.”

So they went into a deal with the Grays, or Truman had already kind of done that. But they went into a deal with Grays who promised them technology. And, of course, the Grays were telling the same things to the Russians. And they had already been working with the Nazis for . . . Let’s see, that was ’56, so they were working with the Nazis for 10 or 15 years.

So all of this stuff gets revealed to us later, and we don’t really understand all this back in the day with the Grays and the revelation.

Fred could have explained it, but he never talked about that kind of stuff.

So it’s an interesting phenomenon to realize that all the world’s governments turned them down because they were beholden to this world debt-slavery system that has hidden the technologies.

And people, I want you to realize, when you’re in traffic in your little car, and when you pay your electric bill and there’s an electrical shortage, it’s all contrived. It has been for a long, long time.

And unfortunately, the average person has not looked deep enough or far enough for them. It’s a “conspiracy theory”. Well, it’s actually a criminal activity of the people who are responsible that have the information, have hidden it from us, have stolen our money, and misused public funds for a development of secret programs to only benefit themselves. And the rest of us literally can be depopulated.

They have an Agenda 21 that was brought out in the Global 2000 Report back in the day. And that was in the ’80s or ’90s. And the Pleiadians said, “Go get the report.” And it was just talking about neutering people in the Third World and just a lot of stuff that is very unethical. And we see that today continuing full speed.

And it’s good for people to be aware of this and to shine the light on the mold and bacteria that this exists.

But, I want to give the positive news. We are so locked in to our mind and so freaked out in our daily life, we could just shake our head and look up. There is such a bright future for us.

We can break away from this negativity, this ignorance. And if you think about it, you become fearful because so many people aren’t acknowledging what’s going on. We’re not living in a sustainable society.

We’re destroying the water. You’ve got the fracking. You’ve got the DAPL pipeline. I mean, all of these corrupt situations . . . You have electromagnetic mind-control through ELF, HAARP, and directed-energy weapons, microwave cellphones, [unintelligible] towers. And Cobra, of course, talks about the [unintelligible] chambers.

But I should get back to Frank. I saw him there, and I had always been interested but never followed him.

And I think it was in 2003, I got on and joined his Inner Circle group. And his information the way he talked about Valient Thor was always so honest and forthright.

And when I met him at the Inner Circle meeting in Las Vegas, he was so wonderful, so open, so loving, so caring, so genuine. And all he shared was with the teachings, very positive, beautiful spiritual teachings, from the Venusians.

And one of them was “Spacecraft Over Earth”. It talks about the 12 ships from Venus that are over the Earth. And each ship has two sister ships that hang in the astral plane. And they guard those ships and nothing could ever harm them.

The government has tried to find them, and they cannot with any technology find them.

And so the story goes, is he met Valient Thor while giving a talk about Valient Thor in 1956. And a woman came up to him after the meeting. It was a black woman who worked in the Pentagon. She’s passed away. We can say her name now: Nancy Warren.

And she said, “Dr. Stranges, . . . “ And he’s like signing his book called “Saucerama”. Now realize, he used to be a Secret Service agent ‘chasing paper hangers’. I’m sorry folks, that’s ‘counterfeit money’.

And he was a preacher. He had a real biblical-type of talk and spiritual. He’s referring to the message of Jesus and the whole Bible thing, which I kind of was not into at the time. And basically I kind of listened to him with a semi-skeptical ear.

But he met Valient Thor, and the woman says, “Do you know how to take orders?”

And he said, “Yes.”

She goes, “Be outside your hotel at 8:00 am.”

He goes, “I know.”

So she shows up. It’s a very cold day. They get to the Pentagon. They get in line, and she goes, “Just do as I do.”

And he goes, “What do you mean? I don’t have a pass. Everyone has a pass.”

“Just do as I do.”

So they opened up his coat. He went through four levels of security, flashing it.

And they have a Jedi-mind trick called “trans-imagery”. And he told me he was in the White House during Jimmy Carter with another of the commander’s people in that famous picture at Howard Mentor‘s place in High Bridge, New Jersey. His name is Dawn.

And he was in the White House, and Jimmy Carter came up to him and looked at his lapel. And he said, “Oh, State Department, huh?”

And he said he didn’t have anything on his . . . ha, ha, . . . on his collar. So he was in there. They were hob-nobbing in the White House. So they kind of come and go where they want.

I’ll also tell some other cool stories that Dr. Frank didn’t tell a lot of people. But they were for the Inner Circle members and stuff like that.

Jimmy: Well, we’ll pick that up right after the break. That’s a good point . . .

Rob: Oh, we have another break. All right.

Jimmy: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we gotta do ’em, man. We gotta pay the bills, Rob. You know the drill. Our guest tonight, Rob Potter. This is Fade to Black. I’m your host, Jimmy Church, on the Game Changer Network on KGRA The Planet. We’ll be right back.

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Jimmy: All right, welcome back. Fade to Black. I’m your host, Jimmy Church. Our guest tonight, Rob Potter.

And this portion of the broadcast is brought to you by River Moon Coffee, makers of the Fade to Black Blend.


Now back to Rob. Rob, I want to talk some Cobra. And before we jump into it, this is the first time you’ve been on this show, and we’ve never actually had a chance to talk off air, but Cobra and the Galactic Federation, over the years, I’ve gotten tons of email from Cobra wanting to come on the show, the Galactic Federation and their representatives wanting to come on the show.

And I could never nail down . . . I got email from so many different sources, right?

Rob: Right, right.

Jimmy: Yeah, I just never could figure out . . . If I’m going to bring, you know, that organization or Cobra on the show, I need to make sure, A, it’s the right Cobra, right? Ha, ha, ha.

Rob: Right.

Jimmy: And the right Galactic Federation. And certainly, well, before we continue . . . Over the years and, you know, probably, . . . Well, a number of years ago, the visibility of Cobra and the Galactic Federation was really starting to spread and it was very visible.

It seems like it has died down and gone back in the other direction. So let’s address this really quick.

Who is Cobra? Who is the real Cobra?

Rob: Well, first of all, Cobra and I got together because he had . . . His website actually started on my birthday. I was posting, and he reached out to me because I have had experience with Fred Bell.

There’s a book called “The Promise” by Brad Steiger, and that’s based loosely . . . They took some of my life and made it Fred’s and I’m the character Eric in that book. And it’s a bit of a homogenization of facts and fiction there, which I won’t go into.

But he reached out to me, and I kind of vetted him. He likes to keep his voice . . . Let me say the first thing is, he was . . . Have you ever heard of a guy named Phil Schneider? When he was murdered . . .

Jimmy: Of course.

Rob: There was a group of contacts that were going to be murdered and Cobra was supposed to be one of them, and he escaped with the help of some of the Resistance Movement members and was given strict protocols in how to protect himself.

So he had his own experiences and was taken in the Solar System to, I’m not sure if it’s the Jupiter portal, but the Pleiadians gave him a good training and he was actually on the Moon in one of the bases and looking at the Earth. He’s had a lot of experience.

So let me just say he’s been asked to share some of the more technological aspects of the information. Like Fred, he’s pretty comfortable in some of these advanced metaphysical technologies.

So they asked him to make posts about certain things.

And, of course, let me just say, when anyone comes out there on this stuff, things get a little culty around them. But I have to say, Cobra handles it quite well. He does not take any personal adulation. And the only people that see him are the ones that go to his workshops.

So, you know, there’s always a question . . . I said, “Well, can’t the Cabal come and, if they want to take you out, go to the workshop?” And he says he has protection and stuff there.

But he . . . In order to keep the information on the message and not on his personality, he’s chosen to remain anonymous.

The word “Cobra” stands for “compression breakthrough”, which is well known in the Bible about an Event that’s supposed to take place. And they call it The Event, because it has . . . it doesn’t have a charge of people freaking out about what it is or what it isn’t .

I helped write the first, I think, 45 pages, or something, of a book he calls “The Event”. I kept the kind of ET thing out of it, but I’ve been studying this my whole life and I’ve always wondered, “How is this going to change?”

Fred Bell told me, he said, “They’re planning mass landings in ’95.”

Well, the Reptilians and some of these beings invaded in the Congo and unleashed a lot of negative programs. They upped their game in trying to take over the Earth. And this is a long political story, but you have asked about Cobra, so . . .

We starting contact and he said he wanted to do some workshops. So I was the first one to contact him because I’ve done them for Fred Bell. I used to organize them when I ran his company, built all the products and did all the shipping and everything, and I’d organize conferences after Whole Life Expo or . . . In Laguna Beach is where we did them.

So we organized one in Laguna Beach and that’s when I first actually physically met him. But the conference was held in the same location that Fred used to hold his things. And we went up on the hill where I knew where Fred was having his contacts very near, because I asked him about it later, and he finally said, “Well, yes.”

I said, “You know more, but you can’t tell me.”

He said, “Yeah, I’m sworn to secrecy, and I can’t tell you. It’s for your own safety.”

Fred used to talk about the “Veil” and all that kind of stuff.

As goes with the Internet, a lot of people talking about what they don’t know and they making prognostications about others, many people are being contacted. And I want to go back to Dr. Frank for a second.

After the governments refused the offer, they started taking it to the general populace. And in fact, they’d already anticipated possibilities and many different groups of extraterrestrials were coming to Earth for the first time or had been here before, were being prepared for Contact if they were ready and their life reached a certain thing.

Everyone has free will. And some people remain silent. Some people work in technology and never come out. Some people are meant to come out. Some people don’t.

So there’s a whole, let’s say, fifth columnist of Earthlings of good standing who are helping to bridge the gap over the silent secrecy group that is very serious and has murdered many, many people in regards to the multiple programs. They have been working with hostile syndicates of aliens to negatively affect the Earth and Corey’s talked about that as well. So, basically, it’s an individual situation.

So, I met Cobra. I have to say he’s very honest. He’s ethical.

Jimmy:You’ve met Cobra in person?

Rob:Yeah, yeah, several times. He came to Thailand, and we talked about the Prepare for Change, which I kind of conceived. From him just talking about it, I got all this information downloaded. So we worked on that.

But Cobra’s mission is to prepare people for what’s called The Event, which is the extraterrestrial plan to liberate the Earth from the hostile forces who are holding Earth hostage.

They control the military. They control finances. They control the governments. They control religion. And they have an advanced form of mind control, which is a whole show in itself.

I have a Venusian contactee guy that recently contacted me about a month ago. And he contacts me just out of the blue every now and then. I don’t get to plan it.

And he said they’re . . . they have plans for some advanced, directed-energy weapons to kind of mess up a lot of people. And he mentioned for me to share with your audience that people just need to hold fast to the Truth and to your own energy and don’t let your . . . any negative thoughts come into you.

And be aware that you are the master of your own destiny. By controlling your thoughts, words, deeds and actions, you can stave off these attacks, because our mind, if we let ourselves go into negative thinking, then we become an easy tool for misinformation.

So the trick is stopping your internal dialogue like Don Juan said, through meditation and not doing. And by doing that, you’ll provide no food for these psychic attacks. You dwell in a relationship with All That Is, or the Creator, whatever you want to call it, the Lord. And if you have a reverence and a feeling of the majesty of life, and you truly want answers, if you will with all of your might to invoke Light into your being and into your endocrine glands, to your chakras through your crown and through that ancient science of ‘yoga’, which means union, or ‘religion’, which means ‘unire’, to reunite . . . There’s a science to this.

And you can invoke this Light and strengthen yourself in what is called the living word of God, or the I Am Presence. And I don’t want to get all religious on this, but this is about personal development.

This transformation that’s coming on the planet isn’t about, “Oh, the army’s here. This guy’s doing this, the President did that, and the bad guy’s are doing this.” You’re going to go nuts.

All of these people are saying stuff and most of them don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. And some of them are very well intended, and we know a lot of the bad stuff.

Like they’re jamming our soul light with genetically-altered food, HAARP, ELF, microwaves, quintars – you know the story – loud noises, endless chemtrails and other types of gases that are being sprayed invisibly by hostile ET forces. And the good guys are having a battle here.

So there’s both good guys and bad guys that are working secretly behind the scenes. And trust me, the good guys are going to win. The bad guys are pretty much done. It’s a matter of doing it safely, so that when they decide to pull the trigger and make the arrests, they will take over the radio stations, every satellite. It can be done ‘snap’ like that. Every conventional weapon the government has, as far as aircraft, can be disabled in minutes throughout the planet.

There’s no problem, but doing it by force is not the best option for the Confederation. Look, the Confederation’s been around for thousands of years.

And the people that are emailing you are just people who are interested in Cobra. There’s no group mass emailing. He’s not saying, “Get me on this show or that show.”

People are excited about his information because he’s been correct about a lot of things. He talks about a technology which most of us don’t know about. And we have to take certain things for granted, but in my experience of 45 years studying this stuff, he’s filling in a lot of the gaps.

Is he right about everything? No. He’s human. Who is? Were certain things revealed to him later? Yeah. I mean, he’s above me. I mean, is everything Corey says exactly true and exactly real? Probably not. David Wilcock? Probably not. We’re all human.

But we have to understand that they way the information is coming to us, it’s coming through different individuals and groups. Number one, some of them will conflict with each other. And that’s for you to use discernment because you have to get the over-arching plan that has been in place for a long time so that you don’t get too caught up in one person or one ideal.

“Oh, David Wilcock’s the bomb. I’m really in to him.” Or “I don’t like him, but Corey has all the info”. Or “forget Corey”.

Everyone needs to take a little sip of everybody and resonate it. Research it.

I didn’t believe in mind control, Jimmy. I had to research it. There’s a book called, and your people can look for it. It’s called “Thanks for the Memories”, by Susan Ford aka Brice Taylor, who was a mind control subject. I saw a picture of her with Joseph Mengele, his boots, when she was like six years old into this ritual abuse Satanic network.

She laid out all the stories. She was used as what’s called a presidential model. She had sex with Charles, King Faud, all the presidents, including Kennedy. So not all these guys were choir boys. But the Kennedys realized what was happening. They didn’t want to sell the planet down and decided to fight against the system.

And let me tell you, Dr. Frank told me that Johnson knew about it and was in on the plot. He hated Kennedy. And he actually called . . . He was . . . Dr. Frank was in town and Lyndon Baines Johnson went to the Secret Service to go gather Dr. Frank and they all came and surrounded him and, you know, said, “The President wants to see you.”

He went up to the room and he goes, “Where’s Valient Thor now?”

And he goes, “I don’t know.”

He goes, “How did you get past all that security there?” And he was smoking a cigar and he had socks and he said that he had like these garters on his socks. His feet stunk.

Dr. Frank was protected. He had many attempts on his life from . . . Commander Valient Thor had saved him.

Let me tell you this one story. He was in McCarran airport. He used to land and walk on the tarmac. And Dr. Frank . . . Commander Valient Thor would usually pick him up at his hotel or some place, but there was a limousine down there and some guys waved, “Dr. Frank!” And he got in the vehicle, and he noticed it smelled like cigars, and the guys were quiet. They didn’t say anything.

When they got . . . headed out to where Valient Thor was, they went . . . As soon as they went on the wrong road, he knew there was a problem.

And they got out in the middle of the desert, and they were military guys. They said, “Get out of the car.” And they kicked him to the ground, and they started to beat him up.

Well, Valient Thor and Dawn materialized on the moment. And Dawn was standing by the driver. The door was closed and Frank told me that he reached through the door, pulled the guy out through the door and threw him in a heap.

And the two other guys that were in the back were military henchmen, and Valient Thor took one with one hand and threw him near the other guy and grabbed the other guy and threw him.

And then he raised his hand and all the tires turned to liquid. And then all three of them disappeared.

And I go . . . I said, “Wow!” And, of course, my question was, “Well, where did they go?”

And he goes, “You know, that was my thought.” He said Valient Thor said, “Let’s just say they’ve been displaced.”

And I said, “Well, where do you think they went?”

And he said, “Probably to one of the salt mines on Pluto. The salt can draw out a lot of negativity.”

So that was Dr. Frank’s . . . some of the stories. And let me tell you one more story.

When Bobby Kennedy was running, Dr. Frank was living in Chatsworth, and they pulled in a limousine. This was before he was killed, like three days before he was killed.

They pulled into Frank’s cul-de-sac, and he said people were mowing the lawn. One lady was like had a cigarette, her hair in curlers with her dog. Another guy’s pickin’ . . . you know . . . The neighborhood was just like, “What the hell is this?”

And Bobby Kennedy got out and strode to his door. He knocks on the door. He said he was kind of short. And Dr. Frank . . . And the first thing was not, “Hello, Dr. Stranges. How are you?” and “I’d like to talk to you.”

He says . . . He goes, “I understand you know this Valient Thor character. Where is he now? I want to talk to him. Get him here now.”

Ha! And Dr. Frank said, “Well, it doesn’t work that way. I really don’t know where he is.”

He goes, “Well, you get him on the phone.”

He goes, “I don’t’ know where he is.”

And he goes, “Well, I . . . “

And he says, “This meeting is over.”

And he goes, “Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute.”

And he says, “Okay. Well, come on inside.”

He says, “You have to write a letter.”

And he says, “I don’t have time to write a letter.”

He goes, “Well, you can go.”

He says, “Okay. I’ll write a letter.”

So Bobby wrote a letter and put it in an envelope and left.

Oh, and he says, “I want to know where Valient Thor is. I want to know who killed my brother.”

And Dr. Frank said that he put the letter on his desk, and he woke up in the morning, and it was gone. Sometimes Valient Thor would appear and . . . sometimes he’d hold letters to his forehead and gets it.

But he told . . . Well, actually, it was the very first time Dr. Frank got to go aboard the ship.

Several days later, Valient Thor picked him up and the started to drive to Mexico to La Paz. And they got on a boat. They went up to the corner. They went around the rocks there and there was a ship cloaked there. They opened the door and Dr. Frank got to go on board for the very first time.

And he gets on board the spaceship and they have a magnetic field that decontaminates you, like walking through mud kind of, but it’s just the air.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: Like a magnet pulling at you.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: And he gets on this spacesuit, a guest. They go upstairs and everyone’s in the commanders quarters and they’re watching Bobby Kennedy’s speech live.

And Commander Valient Thor had told him on the way down, he said, “Well, I went to meet Bobby Kennedy. I appeared at his hotel room.”

And he said he was very suspicious, and he turned on the radio in his room. They went into the bathroom. He turned on another radio and ran the water and had a conversation with Valient Thor.

And Valient Thor told him that, “There are forces aligned against you. In fact, your life is in danger. You will be successful if you run in four years. We recommend that you don’t run.”

And he died two days later, and Dr. Frank was on board the ship, and they had a . . . They can look anywhere. There wasn’t TV. They were watching live with their own camera.

When he was going to get shot, Vice Commander Teal, a female, turned her head and said, “God help him!”

And that’s kind of the information and the abilities they have. They can’t interfere too much because of free will, and because of the hostage situation that Cobra talks about.

I’ve talked a lot. I apologize. I’m going to let you ask some questions.

Jimmy: No, actually, I’m just sitting here enjoying and listening, but I do have a question. Stranges died when, late 2000s? When was the last time he was in contact with Valient Thor, do you know?

Rob: Yeah, I was actually going up and meeting him for lunch, because I just found him to be fascinating and I was privy to do that. He allowed me to do that.

Dr. Frank was in constant contact. He said that Valient Thor would just appear in his office sometimes. Sometimes he would . . . if the secretary wasn’t there, he would walk into the office.

He was given . . . When he would go on board, the doctor would look him over and make suggestions for his health.

Now they didn’t interfere with his Earth medicine, but when he was on board the ship, he sounded younger, and he didn’t have to wear glasses, and a lot of his health issues were gone.

He was a member of a joint extraterrestrial and Earth-based council called the Council of Twelve. And there are many Councils of Twelve. It’s a standard number when making decisions.

They had various programs that they were attending to, but he had some health issues. He had open heart surgery and couldn’t walk very well, and all this stuff.

And the last Inner Circle meeting he told me that he was in the hospital, so I did not pay my fee. And I went up to him in the hospital, and I called everyone in Las Vegas who had that Inner Circle transcript that he would read over the two days.

I got him on the phone so he could say ‘Goodbye’ to the people who had followed him for many years. It was a very straight, normal kind of group.

And Dr. Frank kind of talked a lot of biblical stuff about Jesus and the message and the Dead Sea Scrolls. He was told to reveal all the spaceship contacts in there, and he did that.

He said, “Rob, they told me not to preach at the meeting and just to give the information. Hallelujah!” Ha, ha.

Jimmy: Well, and that was the other thing about Frank that most people don’t know. They think of “Stranger in the Pentagon”, right, and I get that, and they should. But he was a preacher. He had the full on religious side of his life, and then he had the ET contact side of his life too, and trying to somehow live with them both and get them both to . . . have the messages overlap.

And it’s a little bit . . . It’s a little bit of a paradox for Stranges, but he had definite two sides to his life.

Rob: Well, you abide in His truth and truth abides in you, and he merged them, because the message of Yehoshua, or Christ . . . We’ve had . . . There are a lot of avatars – a lot of beings – that are sent here to teach humanity, and the Bible is filled with UFOs.

Look at the Mormon Bible cover. It’s got Jesus praying with a UFO and beings coming down. Look at the Bhagavad Gita and the Vedas, the Rig, Rasur and Sama Veda – I was a philosophy major – or talk about the Rashees. Those were the Pleiadians.

And that information, the Indian science of yoga, is a pure teaching that comes from knowledge of the subtle energy bodies in the currents, and we’re just constantly dumbed down. So we’re trying to reestablish these ancient teachings.

And being aware of extraterrestrials as part of the Bible . . . You know, a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of night led Moses out . . .

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: . . . that whole story. A lot of UFO contactees, George Hunt Williamson – you can research him – and went to South America. There’s a guy, a contact now – I’m going to go down and see him; I’m doing a group in Bolivia – Luis Maertens.

He doesn’t speak English so well, but that guy has amazing experiences. He’s very loving, like Dr. Frank and Omnec. And the Venusian contacts are just smiley, happy people. They don’t get into politics.

Jimmy: Well let’s . . . We’ve got to take a break right here. When we come back, I do want to take a dance around the world with you a little bit. You do a lot of traveling. But also, yeah, with the Bible, you can insert ET or alien or UFO throughout the Bible, and it turns out to be a whole another story, doesn’t it?

Our guest tonight is Rob Potter. This is Fade-to-Black. Stay with us.


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Jimmy: Hey, Rob. I’m a big music guy, right? I talk about music all the time on this show. What did you listen to? You and I are the same age. We went through the same eras together. I’m just curious. What were you listening to in the 70s?

Rob: I love The Moody Blues, Jackson Browne, Rod Stewart, Elton John. You know, I kind of like the signer-songwriters, James Taylor. I did not understand heavy metal until one day I had my LSD trip, and I heard Jimmy Hendrix’s “Water Fall” . . .

Jimmy: Yeah, that’ll do it.

Rob: . . . and Deep Purple’s “Highway Star”, and I go, “Oh, I get it now.”

Jimmy: I remember, oh man, this is in the mid-70s – maybe ’77 – and I’m at a . . . it was like a dance or some kind of thing at a teen club, right? And they had a band there.

And the band played “Highway Star”, and I stepped back, and I went, “That . . .”, right? Right there. Yeah, I totally got the whole Deep Purple thing. But, yeah, I was a heavy metal kid in the ’70s. Well, I still am. I’m a heavy metal kid today.

James Taylor, all the master songwriters like Jackson Browne . . . Today, when I listen to their craft and how they did it, you know, it was songwriting. it was pure and simple.

The Eagles, right? That whole . . .

Rob: Oh, yeah, the Eagles. I loved them.

Jimmy: Yeah, absolutely. I’m so with you on all of that. I just love . . . If music is good, it’s just good.

Rob: By the way, I want to say one thing. Although I did have that experience, I don’t advocate . . . Massive drug use is not good. In the long run, I think too much can go somewhere, but it was a part of our culture and I had that experience.

I want to share with you one little thing before you go into your next question was about music. Now, the Pleiadians, their spaceships . . . no one can steal a Pleiadian spaceship because the ship is literally living and alive and is keyed to the auric signature of the captain.

So when they build their spaceships, first of all, they grow a mushroom in zero gravity in outer space, and at a certain point in time, the inject a liquid crystal into the mushroom, and it becomes like a living, alive, ship. And it’s keyed into, let’s call it, a universal ether plasma field.

And when the captain rides the ship, it does as the captain is thinking and feeling. So when you hear a “Woo-woo-woo-woo” – all that sound – it’s kind of keyed into the captain.

Here’s another interesting fact: When Fred went to the Pleiades and landed on Lyra, he said that the spaceports were shaped like conch shells and like the Hollywood Bowl-type of stuff to enhance the sound. And so it’s kind of a show-off kind of thing, not show-off, but a fun thing that they would come in make their ship make these beautiful orchestral sounds when they land. How is that for cool?

Jimmy: Yeah, totally. And the . . . Man, we keep going back to Fred Bell. Fred Bell was also into music and writing and he had the full studio at that house in Laguna.

Rob: Yeah, we actually had Jim Dilettoso, who did the camera work for the book, “Contact in the Pleiades” by Wendell Stevens and Billy Meier, came over to the house, and we did some jamming. Fred had some very exotic sound waveforms there making slaves of five different synthesizers and keying off of one.

It was very awesome music, and it was based on holographic sound technology, which never really completely got off the ground. But Jim Dilettoso . . . The Pleiadians contacted Fred when he was there that night he said, “We’re going to go out and give him his own contacts.”

He was going to go and . . . He was trying to say “Goodbye” and he was . . . Jim was smoking a cigarettes, and he was like, “Jim, just go. You know where to go. You want your own experience.”

I don’t know if he was kind of afraid or stuff, but . . . He had his own experience eventually.

Jim was the guy . . . and this was in 19 . . . I want to say, ’82 or ’83 . . . He was the guy . . . He had a helmet in his hand. And I go, “What is that?”

And he goes, “This is my prototype for the telemetrics.”

And I go, “What do you mean the telemetrics?”

And he goes, “Well, . . .” Even then we didn’t . . . He says, “You don’t really know right now but some of the pilots and advanced pilots have these little computer screens that come over their eye and they just look and all of the . . . it runs all of the equipment. This is the next level. This is no screen, no eye needed to go focus on anything. This is a telemetric device . . .

Jimmy: Right.

Rob:. . . that would read your mind and run the latest aeronautics.” So Jim was a very advanced technology guy.

And he told me he was working on . . . Now you have the . . . You don’t have to fill out your form. You just stick the check in?

Jimmy: Yeah.

Rob: He developed all the reading stuff for the banks. He’s another scientific genius there that ran through Fred’s house.

Jimmy: He was working with Geordie Hormel and The Village out there in Phoenix. I think he always had a vision for the future, and certainly was . . . back when computers were just taking off and the ability to scan photographs and study color imaging and heat signatures. Dilettoso was right there at the front of it. There’s no doubt about it.

Oh, one of my producers, Rene, just sent me this message. She wants to know, “What happens to the ET spaceship if the captain dies?”

Rob: That’s an interesting question. I can’t say I would know. But generally speaking, they don’t die. If they’re involved in something down here, no one else can use it.

I mean, the government can have it now. Dr. Frank said that Valient Thor’s crew . . . They landed, and they gave spaceships at Edwards Air Force Base when they went to the dental thing?

Jimmy: Right. Right. Right. Right. In Palm Springs.

Rob: They made a movie about it. It’s called “Strange Science” with a kid supposedly finding the thing with . . .

Anyway, he said that when they put it in kind of like a neutral zone so you could push it around. One person could move the spaceship. And he said when it was there, Eisenhower was standing in front of it, and they blinked it so you couldn’t see it, and they said he had a minor heart attack, actually. Ha, ha.

Jimmy: Right. Right. Right. I heard the story. Oh, before we . . . I don’t want to run out of time here. I do want to . . .

Rob: Yeah, you want to go around the world.

Jimmy: You travel a lot. You’re on your way to Bolivia, but before we get to Bolivia, which is a very interesting place, let’s talk a little bit about Egypt. Why is it so special for you?

Rob: Well, for me, I’ve always had a fascination with the pyramids, and I first went there in 1991, I think. I took a group called Power Places Tours, and I arranged the UFO. We took Zecharia Sitchin and Howard Menger, the Hybrids New Jersey incident where Valient Thor’s picture was taken.

Jimmy: Right.

Rob: We took some UFO people, and we did this beautiful tour inside all the pyramids, go around the Sphinx. Then we took a cruise down the Nile and went to all these different places and learned a lot of the lore and the history that was there.

But all of this place known as Egypt was actually one of the first centers where the forces of Light tried to reestablish the teachings after one of the falls of Atlantis.

Fred claimed that the Great Pyramid is 76,000 years old. Now, there have been salt crystals and evidence that’s showing it to be 26,000. And I don’t know. I could imagine this could be debated, but the Great Pyramid itself was connected to another location called Saqqara.

And there’s all kinds of ET underground labyrinth there, where you would be trained in various metaphysical techniques to control your mind. And there’s a giant sarcophagi there, where you would go in there with very little air for three days.

If you passed all these tests, you’d go about 40 miles in this underground tunnel, and you’d come up underneath the pyramid. And there was water there. And people would try to dissuade the initiates. “Oh, they’re out there to kill you. They’re jealous of your power.”

There was a supposedly some crocodiles that in there. They were always well fed. And they’d see how you’d go into fear. Then they’d flood one of the chambers, and if you panicked they’d let it . . . the water down, but if you were relaxed and let it get to the top, then it would . . . a door would open and you’d go into the next level.

There are seven chambers located like a kundalini on the spine of various rooms where various initiations took place.

And what people should know is the Great Pyramid itself had many functions. But one of the main functions was an energy device. And I’ll tell you some of the things . . . how the energy worked.

Now, Wardenclyffe that Tesla built, the standing wave technology, a more modern version, always had to have water. And so the Great Pyramid also had water at the base.

In the Grand Gallery, there was a tank, and there’s like tread marks for a tank. It was a modern-day high-technology equipment. And it would go along the Grand Gallery, which had lots of precious stones, which were later removed.

And so this device would resonate to the cosmic energies of the universe and would provide energy into the King’s Chamber and the Queen’s Chamber were intimately associated, because those roofs – the roof of those rooms – both would raise and lower with the capacitance of the natural energies.

It worked on the piezoelectric effect of the limestone. It worked on thermal coupling from the marble outer shell that was there. And the rotation of the Earth, the Moon, . . . everything was combined.

And the Great Pyramid was a generator station.

And it wasn’t so long ago that if you were inside the Great Pyramid, you would have a wi-fi receiver, not microwave, but a completely harmless reception that you could gather energy from the pyramid.

And the capstone was a solid gold capstone on there.

They stripped the marble years ago. And you can still find some of it there.

But the secret chambers in there were very powerful, and it was open to the public until the time of Christ.

And when Christ . . . Yeshua went in there for his initiation, they sealed it up, and I think it was 989 years later they found their way in and they’re still rooms they don’t know.

That guy, Zahi Hawass, was a Cabal criminal. They stole a lot of information, and they’re keeping a lot of secrets there.

A guy named J. J. Hurtak, who wrote the book, “Keys of Enoch” . . . I spent time with him at the Bosnia pyramid there, and he told me that he showed the [unintelligible] tomb. There’s a river under there.

Lots of stuff will be revealed as Dr. Frank promised us. There are ancient records and chambers all around the Earth, including Sedona, Arizona, one of the first contact points of the Venusians over 200,000 years ago, will be brought forward at the right time with technologies and records proving what took place.

And at a certain point in time in our future, when humanity has kind of gone through its shock and awe and fear and everything’s calmed down, we’ll probably be able to see the Akashic Records of various things that took place, perhaps of the criminal activities of the Cabal.

Their activities, as horrible as they are, may be revealed to us so that we can understand and grasp the level of wool thickness that’s been pulled over our eyes, and how we’ve allowed ourselves to be misled.

Jimmy: Yeah, there’s no question . . . Sorry, I’m going to jump in real quick here. There’s no question about Egypt and what is going on at Giza. As you walked around there for the first time, and there’s no hieroglyphics, there’s nothing there, and you’re looking at these amazing structures, and then you go down the Nile and you’re able to go to Luxor or Karnak. Well, you went to Saqqara.

And you travel to these different sites where you see the hieroglyphics everywhere, and you see the difference, the dichotomy, between the other sites around Egypt and Giza, do you feel like we have been lied to, that there is something else going on at Giza, that it just might not be Egyptian at all, and it’s rather painfully obvious?

Rob: Well, look, first of all the Ankh, and you can see that they were built by the Atlanteans or ETs. They had elongated heads. They had a little thing that came up to their mouth and gave them like a steam bath of copper.

And what they could do with these Ankh, they would hold it and they could put it to a stone and make the stone 10 lbs., 50 lbs., 100 lbs., . . . I think they made it like 25 lbs. so it wouldn’t just go spinning and get out of control.

But there would be one Atlantean and two workers . . . would push it into place. There was no manual labor. That’s all hogwash.

So there was a technology that built a lot of the pyramids.

Now, there are some stories that the Great Pyramid was manifested by an act of will, but I don’t really know and I think these mysteries will come forward.

I have to say, I was shown the famous hieroglyphics – this was in ’91 – that show . . . look like a tank, a modern-day plane. And I asked the guy, I said, “This wasn’t made recently.”

He said, “No, this is all . . . These are real.”

So they had some prophetic ones.

But to get to Karnak, and in many of the temples there, was have the Jesuits to thank for that. They had teams of Jesuits for 30 years on ladders with chisels blanking out all of the information and the stories of ET contact and extraterrestrial stuff.

So that was done in the . . . whenever that was done.

Jimmy: Right. Right.

Rob: That’s been hidden.

Jimmy: We’re approaching the end of the show here, Rob, and I wanted you to share with us the latest communication with Cobra, and the message to our audience and to the world and to our planet.

And where are we with that today?

Rob: Well, Cobra’s very careful not to say any dates. He’s an expert in explaining the Veil of the technologies

keep us kind of in a semi-mind-control state. We’re triggered. We get upset. Our families break up.

So he shares that. He tells the information that’s very important for us to remain clam.

Don’t get so involved with the political stuff. He has insider stuff that he talks about, that he has his own contact sources telepathic.

I’ve revealed that he’s a male. He’s a normal guy. He has a girlfriend, and I’ll just say he’s very ethical, very honest, sincere. I found him to be very stand up and straight.

We have some differing views on things, I think, because he doesn’t reveal a lot. He keeps a lot of things close to the vest and secret. He reveals something, and I go, “Hell, I knew about that in ’82. I don’t know why it’s so secret.” But he has his reasons, and I respect them.

You know, if you want to have him on the show, he’ll come on, but he needs to be modulated.

Jimmy: Yeah, that’s what he said.

Rob: Oh, you actually talked to him?

Jimmy: Yeah. You know, I have my . . . Look, I respect his reasons for wanting to do that, but here on this show, I think transparency is paramount. So if we can’t . . . There’s no way to meet him in the middle here. Right?

Rob: Yeah, I hear ya. Coast-to-Coast had the same thing.

Jimmy: Yeah.

Rob: It’s all right.

Jimmy: Yeah. I would love to have him on the show. It’s just that it needs to be all or nothing. And for him it needs to be all of nothing, so we’re kind of stuck, right?

Rob: Yeah, it’s all good. It doesn’t matter. Life goes on. The world can survive without one more Cobra interview. He’s doing . . . sharing his stuff. He’s very consistent, and he doesn’t talk negative of other people. He doesn’t [unintelligible] or question. He says, “I can’t confirm that” or he doesn’t know – his sources don’t indicate that.

Let me make something clear. One of his contacts is from Planet X. So let me explain Planet X.

Planet X has a very long elliptical orbit. It takes 850 days for one of their years. So it’s three times farther away from the Sun than us. It has methane gas all over its surface. The people live on the interior, as do most people throughout the universe and the galaxy – live on the interior of the planet.

Our planet is very unique and has a very lively, rich . . . It’s one of the most beautiful planets around because of its powerful life force that regenerates and creates so much beauty here, though our attempts to destroy it are mad.

So that planet was under the control like we are of this Dark negative energy that basically is . . . You know, it’s like a bully in a kindergarten room and they’ve taken over the teacher’s spot and running everyone and no one . . . It’s happened so long that everyone forgets. They’ve shortened our life span.

We’ve got what, 80 years to figure it out, and you start to figure it out and then you’re dead. Ha, ha.


Rob: So we have that going against us. So basically they all knew what was happening. And soon as the opportunity came, they battled these, the Reptilians and Andromeda force, and they liberated their planet.

And they knew the nature of this group is . . . they come and go. They’ll evacuate, and they’ll come back in 300 years and try to take it over again.

So they wanted them kicked out of the Solar System so they petitioned the Confederation and the Alliance – the different ET groups that are observing our situation and doing their best to raise our awareness and to help us throw off this hostile force, and they said, “Yeah, you can come in.”

And they came in, and they lost a lot of people in these battles.

But according to Cobra, many of these negative, underground bases and forces, have been overcome and kicked off the planet.

Now, he maintains that there is a very exotic top quark technology that works whats called a toplet bomb which could destroy the planet. And they have to be very careful with that.

So it’s part of the hostage removal situation that when this liberation comes, it’s not mean to be a bloody revolution with people fighting in the streets and we’re free of debt. It’s meant to be like basically turn off the electric mind-control panel, provide positive information, flood the planet with positive healing technologies, clear up the air with those ships going up and down, and share the truth and buttress it with lots of contactees that have been taken off to live on other planets will come back and share their information.

And the ground crew gets to meet . . . We don’t know . . . All we can do from my perspective, with my experience, . . . I know that these things are coming. It’s just a matter of patience.

I mean the stuff in Bolivia we can save for another show., but it’s amazing down there. Lake Titicaca, the Island of the Sun, Machu Picchu and the contacts that happen down there are very relevant, and very much actually connected with the Venusians. You can read about that on my website too if you’re interested.

But I thank you for having me on here. It’s been an honor and a pleasure.

Jimmy: Yeah, thank you so much, Rob. And safe travels to Bolivia. And when you get back, let’s get you back on the show – way, way too much to cover. Tonight, we just kind of did a lot of a little, right? Ha, ha. We just went across the board.

Like I said, safe travels. When you get back, we’ll get you back on the show.

Rob: Well, thank you so very much, and Victory to the Light, and thank you all for listening.

Jimmy: Yeah, thank you so much, Rob. All the best, and, again, safe travels. Now, Rob’s links for www.thepromiserevealed.com are over at www.jimmychurchradio.com. Go to the books section. He’s got those two free downloads for you. Go and check that out, and everything else that Rob has over on his website.

Rob Potter, everybody. Safe travels to Bolivia. This is Fade-to-Black. I’m your host, Jimmy Church.

“Domnick Lucchesi Meets The Space Girl Part 1” by “Raymond Keller”

“Domnick  Lucchesi Meets The Space Girl Part 1” by “Raymond Keller”

Dear Promise Friends

  Once again I am honored to share with you all another amazing article written by Raymond Keller. Cosmic Ray has done it right here with a tremendous amount of documentation covering a vast and deep series of contacts with our Venusian Family.

This article is mainly about Dominick Lucchesiand is peppered with little known facts and a historical significance that will be missed by most people.

Raymond will be presenting at this summers Mt Shasta Summer Conference  “From Venus With Love July 27-29 go here to get your tickets.


Be aware this article covers Lady Aura Rhanes the Venusian Commander in her position as Ambassador to earth living and walking amongst us as Evelyn Smith.

George Hunt Williamson the anthropologist and contactee  along with Gabriel Green and many of the pillars of the early UFO movement are mentioned here in this exciting prelude to Cosmic Raymondsnext few books coming out soon.

Please read enjoy and if you can, make it to Shasta this summer to meet cosmic Ray who lived on Venus for 10 weeks in From 2012 to 2013.

Warm regards

Victory to The Light rob Potter

Dominick Lucchesi Meets the “Space Girl,” Part I

By Raymond A. Keller, a.k.a. “Cosmic Ray,” the author of the international awards-winning Venus Rising Trilogy (Terra Alta, West Virginia:  Headline Books, 2015-2017)




Dominick Lucchesi (1925-1987), was an electronics and radio wizard, as well as pioneer ufologist.  Photo from Keller Venus files depicts Lucchesi in early years as scientific consultant for Albert K. Bender’s International Flying Saucer Bureau (IFSB), taken sometime in the years of 1952-1953. 

“Martians hate Earthlings.  They have invaded Earth over and over since the 1890s, but are stopped each time, despite their superior weapons and iron will.  Why?  Perhaps because they lack the very things they want so much from Earth, warmth and humanity.”  –Venusian proverb as told by Dominick C. Lucchesi, pioneer ufologist



Dominick C. Lucchesi (1925-1987) was born and died in Jersey City, New Jersey.  Not many researchers in the contemporary UFO community know much about Dominick, other than having some vague recollection of him working closely with Gray Barker, publisher of the Saucerian Press in Clarksburg, West Virginia.  Barker, to refresh your memory, popularized the early accounts of the Flatwoods Monster, the notorious Men in Black and the Mothman.  Dominick was most well known as an illustrator for many of Barker’s unique flying saucer and paranormal publications.  His specialty drawings focused on beautiful females, either visitors from the planet Venus or somehow associated with that enigmatic celestial orb. 

Dominick had been a UFO investigator since 1952.  Together with Gray Barker and fellow New Jersey ufologist August C. Roberts, Dominick was an officer in Albert K. Bender’s ill-fated International Flying Saucer Bureau (IFSB) throughout the course of that civilian research organization’s brief existence, 1952-1953.  It was widely reported that the IFSB was the first civilian UFO research group to be targeted and consequently shut down by the mysterious three “Men in Black.”  Following the group’s demise, Lucchesi and Roberts joined up with James Moseley in founding Nexus magazine.  This periodical later changed its name to Saucer News, whence Barker assumed the duties as editor-in-chief. 


A Meeting near Times Square

On Friday, 16 September 1969, Dominick was the featured speaker at a special UFO program sponsored by Saucer Newsand convened in the Hotel Woodstock at 127 West 43rd Street in New York City, not far from Times Square.  The title for Dominick’s lecture was the, “Philosophy of the Extraterrestrials.”   Of this meeting, a hand bill proclaimed, “During recent years, Mr. Lucchesi has had several contacts with the Space People, and has gained a deep insight into their philosophy.  Over the years he has risen to a position of prominence in one of America’s leading aircraft companies- a company which has secret contracts with the government.  Therefore, he has understandably been most reluctant to discuss these startling personal experiences, though he has discussed UFO research, in general, on many of Long John Nebel’sradio shows in the past.”

I was just driving for one year at the time.  Having purchased a used 1964 sky-blue, white-topped Pontiac Tempest GTO convertible as my first car with money I earned from working at one of the original double, golden-arched drive-up McDonald’s restaurants in Maple Heights, Ohio, and publishing the Flying Saucer Report, I had only been on one UFO investigation with Cleveland Ufology Project director Earl J. Neff, driving him up to Detroit, Michigan, in the winter of 1968. There was an individual up there, operating out of a bookstore, claiming to be in contact with Mon-Ka of Mars via mental telepathy; and Neff was trying to determine if this alleged contactee was real or just another fraud duping the UFO community.  When the famous Eliot Ness of the Untouchables’ fame lived in the Cleveland area during the Great Depression, young Earl Neff served as his sketch artist.  So Neff had some experience in law enforcement and transferred some of his skills in this area to his UFO investigative work.  In any event, I was so excited to be back on the road again, this time visiting New York City.  This would be my initial visit to the Big Apple, but not my last one. 

The “Cosmic Ray” and “North Coast Mike” drive to New York City in September 1969 to attend lecture by multi-talented contactee Dominick Lucchesi. 


On this trip, however, I was accompanied by Michael A. LaRiche of the popular paranormal talk radio program, Youth Power, being broadcast over Cleveland’s WZAK -FM station, at 93.1 on the dial.  Mike brought his new tape recorder so we wouldn’t miss any good tidbits of UFO lore being dispensed by the multi-talented contactee, Dominick Lucchesi. 

In the car on the way to New York City, we discussed the forthcoming lecture.  “Dominick is a frequent contributor to Saucer News as well as to all of the other great work being accomplished by Gray Barker down in Clarksburg,” I said to my friend Michael, a.k.a. “North Coast Mike.” 

“I’m looking forward to his lecture, too, Ray.  I brought an extra reel for the recorder, just in case, and extra batteries.”

Always fascinated by purported extraterrestrial contacts, I declared that, “I’ve been impressed by Luchessi’s art, but I had no idea that he was actually a contactee as well.”

“That’s an ‘alleged contactee,’ Cosmic Ray.  Don’t get too carried away.  Remember what Earl J. Neff always tells us about the so-called contactees.  Most of them need to be checked out by the bunko squad.

“Really, Ray, most of these alleged contacts with extraterrestrials from Mars or Venus, or some other planet are very dubious cases.  And even if the contact were authentic, how do we know that the so-called ‘aliens’ are really coming from some other world? Maybe these scenarios are staged by our government or even a foreign power, or perhaps by some nefarious group lurking behind the scenes.”

Now, almost fifty years later, I see that Mike had a very good point.  In fact, there is a section in my second book of the Venus trilogy, Final Countdown:  Rockets to Venus (Terra Alta, West Virginia:  Headline Books, 2017), where I delve into the possibility that some UFO experiencers may have undergone their close encounters in the confines of a contemporary version of a holodeck, similar to the device depicted on Star Trek:  The Next Generation.Definitely thinking outside the box, kudos to Mike for his advanced thinking in1969, Anno Domini, when most others weren’t even considering the possibility that there might be “something” in the UFO phenomenon worthy of consideration, let alone investigating.  For a good sense of the zeitgeist of the late sixties and early seventies, please check out my series of articles on the obstacles faced by the late University of Arizona at Tucson physicist, Dr. James E. McDonald, recently published on this website.

Mike called in about a week prior to book a reservation at the hotel.  We arrived at the Woodstock around noon.  We walked over to the nearby Times Square and bought some dogs and pop from a street vendor.  I was delighted that that the hot dogs were covered in genuine New York hot mustard, just like you’d expect to find in Yankee Stadium, the “House that Ruth Built.”  After inhaling the dogs and pop, we then returned to our room to catch a few winks before going down to the assembly hall about 7:30 p.m. to set up and test the recording equipment. 

Dominick was scheduled to begin his lecture promptly at 8:30 p.m.  Attendees started filtering in and within thirty minutes of our arrival, the hall was filled to its maximum seating capacity.  We could see the lanky Gray Barker, in addition to James Moseley and even Dominick himself fiddling with a projector, wires, microphones and other sound equipment.  There were also some unknown individuals setting up tables and spreading out UFO literature for sale from Saucerian Press on them.  As crowds gathered around Dominick, interrupting him from his preparatory task of setting up, he kept his composure and gladly signed the programs of all those who approached him.  I was duly impressed by his sincere and caring attitude.  Seeing that the others were not turned back, Mike and I strolled over to Dominick and introduced ourselves, flashing our credentials.  Mine was a press card from the Bedford, Ohio, Times Register newspaper, and Mike with a press pass from WZAK radio.


We explained how much we enjoyed his art.  I quipped, “You make outer space look a whole lot more interesting than the astronauts do, Mr. Lucchesi.”

“So glad you like it, and nice to see so many youth taking an active interest in UFO research,” said Dominick.  “Say, if you young men have any questions after the show, I would be happy to stick around and answer them.”

“That’s very kind of you, Mr. Lucchesi.  I really appreciate that,” said North Coast Mike.” 

“Thanks, Mr. Lucchesi,” added Cosmic Ray, “We’re looking forward to interviewing you for the radio program and the Flying Saucer Report.”

“You can just call me Dom,” said the contactee as he shook our hands and then ascended to the dais.


Contact in Stages

During his lecture, Dominick described his contacts with extraterrestrial beings as taking place in stages of increased intensity.  In late May 1954, Dominick met a “strange and wonderful person” while visiting a flying saucer club meeting in Patterson, New Jersey.  Dominick described this person as a young man, and noted that much of the material that this individual presented to the group “was almost word-for-word” in accordance with the message that he heard delivered by the renowned psychic channel, Meade Layne, when he was out in California during the first week of April for the Interplanetary Spacecraft Convention out at the Landers Field desert airport, less than twenty miles from Yucca Valley. 

          Dominick did not reveal the speaker’s name at the Patterson club meeting.  However, he did note that, “This guy didn’t say anything about the seismic disturbances; but he did say that the saucer people are our friends and that they could be contacted telepathically.”  He also added, “They look like us and come from the planet Venus.  This person claims to be an adept; and I can vouch for the fact that the ‘boy’ did have certain powers above and beyond ordinary stuff.” 

I had the sneaking suspicion that Dominick may have been referring to Howard Menger; but that particular contactee remained largely behind the scenes until about 1957, when he was prominently featured several times on Long John Nebel’sParty Line radio program, aired late night over a 25-state listening area by Mutual Broadcasting’s WOR-AM out of New York City, 710 on the dial.  Barker and friends at the Saucerian Press came to call Menger their “boy” because his book, From Outer Space to You(1959), was the best-selling of all the literature offered through their Clarksburg office.  The only reason that Meade Layne focused on seismic activity and the Patterson speaker did not, so far as I can determine, is that Meade was addressing a largely Southern California audience, to whom earthquakes were always a concern. 


Enter the “Space Girl”


It is clear that the anonymous Patterson speaker’s lecture inspired Dominick to think about the possibility of Venusians not only visiting our planet in their flying saucers, but actually living and working among us clandestinely.  Dominick tried as he could to telepathically focus his thoughts skyward, hoping to summon a Venusian into his life.  Being of Italian-Sicilian descent, he believed that his ancestors were in direct contact with the Venusians.  He often related legends from the days of the great Roman Empire when sky gods from Venus, arriving in our atmosphere in their motherships, would deploy their “flying shields” and descend to the surface of the Earth.  As they strode the Earth and exhibited amazing powers, the people throughout the Roman Empire worshipped them as gods.  Some Earthlings were chosen to be paired with these divine beings.  Trusted with the keys to Venusian advanced technology, their hybrid children would bring further light and knowledge to the future generations of humankind.

          This thought constantly raced through Dominick’s head:  “Perhaps the gods never left.”

(Note:  Keep watching this website for “Dominick Lucchesi Meets the ‘Space Girl,’ Part II.”  Dominick follows up leads garnered from another contactee’s report provided him at the meeting of a flying saucer club in New York City.  Dr. Raymond Keller will be appearing in person at the Pickaway County Public Library, 1160 North Court Street, Circleville, Ohio, on Thursday, 12 July 2018, from 6 to 8:30 p.m., to answer your questions about flying saucers, life in outer space, and autograph his Venus books.  This event is sponsored by the Roundtown UFO Society of Circleville, Ohio.  For additional information, please contact the group’s director, Peter Hartinger, at (740) 474-6773.


The doctor will also be appearing with OmnecOnec, the Ambassador from Venus, along with many other UFO experiencers, at Rob Potter’s From Venus with Love conference on Mt. Shasta in Northern California, 27-29 July 2018.  Please see thepromiserevealed.com for more details.  C’mon out and meet the legendary “Cosmic Ray!”  -The Editors)

Illustration below: “Lady Venus, Space Commander” by Dominick Lucchesi, as cover for the October 1954 issue of Nexus magazine, Vol. 4, Tome 1.

Dominick Lucchesi believed that the gods of ancient Rome were Venusian cosmonauts.

Dominick Lucchesi Meets the “Space Girl,” Part II

By Raymond A. Keller, a.k.a. “Cosmic Ray,” the author of the international awards-winning Venus Rising Trilogy (Terra Alta, West Virginia: Headline Books, 2015-2017)

Photo from Keller Venus files depicts Dominick Lucchesi as a frequent guest on Long John Nebel’sParty Line program, broadcast nightly from New York City to a listening area covering 25 states over theWOR Radio, Mutual Broadcasting Company’s transmitter at 710 on the AM dial. While Lucchesi did not hesitate to discuss many UFO cases he had personally investigated, he was reluctant to reveal his own experiences as a contactee.


Beginning with Albert K. Bender’s International Flying Saucer Bureau (IFSB), back in 1952-1953, Dominick Lucchesi cut his teeth as a certified flying saucer investigator. All of the way up to his death in 1987, Dominick never declined an opportunity to check out any report of a close encounter with UFOs and/or their occupants.

One of the most unusual cases he investigated involved the landing of a small saucer outside of Peekskill, New York, on 20 February 1954. Concerning this report, Dominick read from his notebook’s “personal file” entry dated 23 February 1954: “Was informed of sighting by Mr. Jack Forster’s brother-in-law on February 23rd, 1954. He informed me that sister (Irene) was sick and nervous due to a severe shock incurred Saturday while she and her husband went to New York State to examine property. He could not enlighten me as to the nature of the phenomenon, but said that his sister mentioned something about seeing an odd and weird creature or something of that nature.”

On the following day, Dominick went to visit Mr. Forster and hinted to him that he was curious as to the nature of the phenomenon seen by his wife and himself; and that perhaps he could he could assimilate the evidence into a more or less practical explanation. Dominick noted that, “I had no inkling at the time that flying objects were involved, but thought that it was my chance to investigate occult phenomenon at close hand, or something to that effect.”

Keeping in mind that most people in the first half of the 1950s were quite skeptical of UFO reports, and the subject of life on other planets generally, Dominick declared that, “Mr. Forster informed me that he would not consent to telling me what had transpired unless I promised not to reveal his address, as he did not want to face the derision that would come his way were his friends and relatives to find out.”

An Astounding Narrative Unfolds

Dominick tape recorded Jack Forster’s narrative and played it for those in attendance:

“My wife and I drove up to Peekskill. That’s where I am going to build a summer home. Upon arriving at the entrance to a dirt trail that leads to my property, I pulled the car off the highway; and she and I began to walk toward the rear of the acreage which is all wooded and extends about 300 yards, and then drops off in a steep bank before continuing to the slope of the mountain or hill.

“We walked around for a while; and before we knew it, it was starting to get dark. You know the way it gets before it really darkens! Well, anyway, we were about a mile in from the highway when we started back; and Irene called my attention to a gleam showing between the trees.

“I would say now that I think back, that it was about 200 yards away and very faint, as the trees were blocking a clear view of it. I was in an exceptionally good mood and very calm or absent-minded, you know, in the way you get sometimes; and I like a darn fool, I started to walk toward the gleam, sort of unthinking like. At about a hundred feet or so, we rounded a big rock. Well, I mean, I don’t quite know how to put it. You’re going to think I’m nuts, or something.

“Well, anyway, I saw it. It gleamed like, brassy, sort of; and it-she, well, anyway, something was standing on the side or deck of this thing. It was a girl and I’m sure; and so is Irene.”

Jack Describes the Spacecraft

Dominick tape recorded Jack Forster’s testimony only three days following the encounter. It was clear in the recording that Jack’s voice remained highly animated and excited as he, along with his wife, bore witness of the girl from outer space.

Jack Forster continued, “For a few moments, I think my mind went blank or numb, or something; as I did not feel myself get frightened. I tried to study the thing, I mean girl, and tried to get a look into the thing as the port or door was opened. It seemed hazy or misty inside. All I could see was a few glass-like rods with bluish balls or spheres on the ends. It looked like high frequency stuff, you know, that sort of thing pretty well. Well, anyway, I saw some black piping and stuff, too. The outside of the thing, the top part anyway, was brassy colored and looked dimpled or hammered-like; and the bottom had that funny gleam like stainless steel, dull and shiny at the same time. Pipes came out of the bottom of the top, if you can understand that, and went down to the edge of the thing. I guess like all technicians, I was more interested in the mechanism than the creature or girl.”

Were the illuminated glass rods a type of fiber optic cables? Was the description of “high frequency” equipment indicative of some advanced type of electro-magnetic propulsion? Remember that this encounter took place in early 1954; so the description of a not yet invented fiber optic technology adds credence to the report, in my opinion.

Exotic “Space Girl”

It figures. Jack, ever the quintessential nerd, paid more attention to the vehicle than its hot female, extraterrestrial pilot. Nevertheless, the technically-minded contactee finally got around to providing Dominick with his impressions of the exotic “Space Girl.”

“It was a girl all right,” emphasized Jack, adding that, “I’m sure of that.” He further explained that, “She seemed to have a black, rubber hood that extended half-way down her back. It seemed to be inflated. I could see it pulse or change size. She had a tube that went in the port in one hand, and a black box with a wire in the other. There was a plastic-like mask over her face, and a goggle-like thing. They were like all one piece.

“I don’t know if it was my imagination, or what, but her eyes seemed luminous as they shined through the darkish glass of the goggles pretty clear at about that time the realization hit me. I began to shake like a leaf. My wife was gripping my hand so tight that it hurt like anything; and she seemed rooted to the spot. When I pulled her to get the heck away from there, she was stiff like a board and wouldn’t move. I had to yank and shake her to get her out of there and back to the car.

“I drove about three miles and stopped. I was worried about the wife. She was white as a sheet; and her mouth was moving; but she couldn’t talk. The reason I stopped was that my feet and legs were shaking so much that I couldn’t drive right. I waited a few minutes and had a smoke. That calmed me a little. I started for home and stopped once to get Irene some coffee. I think she’s still shaking from it; and its a few days since it happened, too.

Jack Forster wrapped up his account. “That’s about all. I know it sounds funny; and I guess you think I’m really gone. I only told you because you believe some pretty crazy stuff yourself. Besides, I think you might have an idea what and where it came from.

“Here’s my wife now! Irene, Irene, come tell Dommiehere what you saw!”

Irene Forster stepped up to the microphone, only adding a small detail here and there. Dominick noted that, “Mr. and Mrs. Forster sat with me and described in detail over and over again until my sketch was as close to what they saw as possible. After I put the final touches on the sketch for the Forsters, Jack blurted out, “It’s too damn close! Are you sure you never saw one, Dommie?”

There was an extended pause on the tape. Then you hear Dominick’s only, but faint comment, “Wish I did.”

Of course, not wanting to alarm the Forsters anymore than they already were, there was a lot of information that Dominick had gathered about flying saucers and their occupants that he was keeping to himself.

Additional Details Explain Lucchesi’s Drawing

As the tape rolled on and continued to record, missing details of the encounter and description of the Space Girl were coming to light as Jack and Irene Forster guided Dominick Lucchesi while his sketch was in the very process of being drawn.

For the benefit of the readers, it was revealed that the Space Girl’s clothes seemed to be of a gray, metallic mesh. The girl was approximately five- feet tall, give or take a couple of inches, but well proportioned. There also appeared to be a very fine, hazy plastic suit covering the figure. It looked like cellophane and extended about three inches from the body, probably inflated. A brassy belt, or girdle, encircled the waist, and a wide brassy bracelet high on the left arm above the elbow. The fingers of the creature or girl seemed to be excessively supple, as Jack stated that he thought he saw them bend the wrong way. Jack was not sure of this point, however, and said that the strange lighting may have served to create this effect. The place of the event was also examined. It indicated that a heavy oval object was there.


Below: First generation ufologist Jim Moseley was so impressed with Jack and Irene Forster’s close encounter that he used Dominick Lucchesi’s drawing of the “Space Girl” to illustrate the cover of the December 1954 issue of the innovative Nexus magazine, the precursor to Saucer News.

(Note: Keep following this website for the amazing conclusion of the Cosmic Ray’s “Dominick Lucchesi Meets the ‘Space Girl,’ Part III.” Discover the true identity of the mysterious, hooded figure as Lucchesi provides a personal account of his own- and previous encounter- with the Space Girl. Learn about the aliens living secretly among us, along with the fantastic technology they employ to manipulate the vast powers in the space-time continuum.

Dr. Raymond Keller will be appearing in person at the Pickaway County Public Library, 1160 North Court Street, Circleville, Ohio, on Thursday, 12 July 2018, from 6 to 8:30 p.m., to answer your questions about flying saucers, life in outer space, and autograph his Venus books. This event is sponsored by the Roundtown UFO Society of Circleville, Ohio. For additional information, please contact the group’s director, Peter Hartinger, at (740) 474-6773.

The doctor will also be appearing with OmnecOnec, the Ambassador from Venus, along with many other UFO experiencers, at Rob Potter’s From Venus with Love conference on Mt. Shasta in Northern California, 27-29 July 2018. Please see thepromiserevealed.com for more details. C’mon out and meet the legendary “Cosmic Ray!” -The Editors)

Dominick Lucchesi Meets the “Space Girl,” Part III

By Raymond A. Keller, a.k.a. “Cosmic Ray,” the author of the international awards-winning Venus Rising Trilogy (Terra Alta, West Virginia: Headline Books, 2015-2017)

One can understand Dominick Lucchesi’s obsession with extraterrestrial women. The various contactee accounts that most captured his fancy were those that struck some resonance in his personal life. Dominick experienced real encounters with female emissaries of other worlds. Although it took him 15 years to come out with it, in his own words, the early experiencer recounted his very first such episode at the UFO convention convened in New York City’s Woodstock Hotel on the evening of 16 September 1969, attended by the Cosmic Ray and North Coast Mike in their early years as flying saucer investigators from the Greater Cleveland, Ohio, area.


In Dominick Lucchesi’s Own Words


Revelations from Outer Space: A True and Startling Tale

On the night of 17 January 1954, I was contacted by an amateur radio operator who resides in the immediate vicinity of my home. The nature of the contact was to the effect that in experimenting with higher frequency receivers, the ham radio operator had decided to utilize a radical new antenna designed by my brother Frank for the purposes of power reception and transmission.

It was my neighbor’s idea that by using the antenna for the purpose of the reception of signals, he could amplify incoming signals to tremendous proportions, thereby increasing the otherwise limited range of the receiver. He stated that he had carried out this experiment in an odd manner. First, he had connected the antenna by a switch circuit to the incoming leads so that he could, by the throw of a switch, introduce the new antenna into the circuit. This would enable him to compare the signal values, or difference between the two.

Having completed his hook-up, he switched to normal antenna and began to tune the higher frequency bands, watching his signal meter flick slightly as it began to pick up slight disturbances on a band that was in the ultra-high frequency range. Out of curiosity, he switched in the new antenna and was amazed to hear a voice emanating from the speaker while the signal meter pegged on full stop. He claimed the voice to spoke to him, as if it knew he could hear it. The voice said, “You are in proper resonance. Do not change your settings.”

Becoming frightened, he cut the switch on and off in a flurry of indecision. Then calming a little, he sat to listen. It was a few minutes before the voice resumed. It said, “Contact someone who can understand…. Space….”

Static interference blocked the reception between the words. “….far…. distant…. Do not turn receiver off…. Contact…. Someone who will understand…. Space…. Velocity interferes with frequency…. Contact…. Now….down soon near…. Wait…. Switch…. Resonates….or….contact our unit….”

The receiver went silent and the signal meter skipped to zero. Putting on his jacket, he ran to my house and told me this story. My curiosity aroused, I went with him to his home and radio room. I sat in silence as he told me over and over that it really happened. I looked at the receiver that was still turned on and picked up the pad on which he had taken down the message. Putting together the words of the message, “Switch….Resonates,” and feeling a little foolish as I did so, I began to send by flipping the on and off switch of the receiver in Morse code. I sent the following: -.-. — -. – .- -.-. – …. . .- .- over and over, “Contact hear—- Contact hear—– -. — .— Now—- Now.” Then, leaving the switch on, I sat back and waited, looking frequently at the sweep hand on my watch.

After about twelve minutes, the mater needle flicked to full scale and a voice emanated from the speaker. Quickly picking up pad and pencil, I took down the message. The voice had a slight alien accent that was like nothing I ever heard before. I believe it sounded slightly Asiatic in intonation, but can’t be sure. This is the message in its entirety:

“You are Contact Seven—– You are Contact Seven——– Hear! Hear! Do not turn receiver off———- Do not turn receiver off—- Static—- (interference for about 30 seconds, then message resumes).

“Listen close—- Listen close—Listen close———- We will be seen if you follow main highway westward….” There was a repetition of the same message several times.

At this point, the voice began to get clearer, as it continued: “Be on highway in exactly 16 minutes— 16 minutes—- 16 minutes. Stop vehicle near swampland—- Stop vehicle near swampland—- look toward sky westward—– Look toward sky westward—– follow, follow, follow, follow to destination…….. Blue glow—- Blue glow….” This message was repeated in its entirety three times.

The message continued with, “———-Now, Now, Now, Now, Now,” which faded into nothing as the meter slowly returned to zero signal.

The first episode of the Outer Limits television program, broadcast on the evening of 16 September 1963, featured the “Galaxy Being,” an electro-magnetic entity accidentally brought down to Earth from the Andromeda star cluster as a radio engineer was using a small California town’s commercial station’s KXKVI facilities to research microwave background radiation in outer space and capture some of it in his own invention of a three dimensional television set. The galaxy being was not satisfied with staying put in the “boob tube,” however, and decided to take a tour of the Central Valley environs, accidentally killing a few people with lethal doses of cosmic rays. Some of the contactees in the 1950s and 1960s, to include Dominick Lucchesi, claimed to first contact extraterrestrials via ham radio sets. One has to wonder if Leslie Stevens, the author of the “Galaxy Being,” was inspired by such amazing accounts as provided by Lucchesi? Photo is from archives of United Artists, Los Angeles, California.

Looking at my companion Vince to see his reaction, I asked what he thought of the message. He was at a complete loss of words. The only highway I knew of that aimed westward through swampland was S3. Figuring to follow the strange occurrence to its end, I told Vince that he should put on his jacket and come along. We arrived at the middle point where the highway intersects the New Jersey swamps about a mile past the Hackensack River. In exactly 12 minutes, and looking westward over the peaks of the Orange Mountains, we searched the sky for a blue, glowing object.

While wondering if the message had been interpreted correctly, it was Vince who first noticed the glow; and I had to follow his pointing finger to find it. I estimated its distance as about three miles by noticing the slight cloud formation which it had penetrated. It was extremely faint; and had I not known where to look, I would have missed it entirely. Occasionally, it would flicker out for about 15 seconds and would appear again.

By this time, I was driving along the highway, maintaining a steady speed of fifty miles per hour, without realizing we had traveled 45 miles and were on U.S. Route 6 in the vicinity of Hackettstown. An abrupt change of direction of the object forced us to turn into a secondary road southward; and we found ourselves in an isolated district with an occasional farm breaking the landscape. Having been in the general area once before, I thought we were in the Schoolboy Mountain area.

Suddenly, the object glowed brighter and began to grow in size. I could not tell whether it was stationary and we were moving toward it, or if it was moving toward us. A loud humming vibration filled my ears. I could even feel the car vibrate in unison. Without realizing I had turned into a dirt road that was overgrown with weeds, and coming to an opening in the trees, I turned off my headlights. I then waited for my eyes to become accustomed to the darkness. Continuing to repent of the fact that I had no flashlight, I became cognizant that by this time Vince was begging me to turn back. He was even trying to push me away from the driver’s seat. Fearing that he would leave, I took the keys out of the ignition and stepped out into the high grass. Suddenly, I was overcome by a feeling of intense and insatiable curiosity which overcame all traces of fear. I walked toward the field in which the object seemed to settle.

My eyes gradually accustomed themselves to the darkness as I pushed aside the brushes and weeds. And then my hair stood on end; and I froze momentarily. My throat constricted, for something stood in the center of the path, blocking my way. I overcame the momentary panic. My own pride would not allow me to show fear. I did not know whether to say something ridiculously outrageous or ridiculously common. My mind was flowing like a kaleidoscope.

I heard myself say, “Who are you?” The figure turned about and started to walk away from me. A strong compulsion made me follow and all fear left. It was supplanted by a feeling of resignation to whatever may follow. I guess I was tired. I don’t know.

After walking about 25 yards, I saw the dim outline of an egg-shaped structure with an open port in its side that gleamed dimly with a fluorescent cast. Limned in the light, the figure I followed took on a more normal appearance. AI saw it was a man in a loose fitting coverall tied at the ankles and wrists. On his head, he had a tight-fitting, skin tight helmet with small projections on the ear flaps, like tiny hearing aid buttons. He walked straight into the craft without even turning around.

I was momentarily interrupted in my observations. Vinnie run up and grasped my wrist from behind, trying to pull me away from the thing. I do not remember the remark I said to him, but let go and stood beside me quietly as the realization of the series of events struck him.

He said, “What should we do now?”

Without answering and fearing I would have to act now, I ran for the open port and walked into the craft. I estimated its size and construction as about fifty feet in length and ovoid in shape, with no rivets or external projections being apparent, except for a band or rim about four feet in width and two feet in thickness. It was circling the outer part of the hull. There were large squares spaced along this rim, whose outer surface looked like a metallic mosaic, like a photo cell. I made the mistake, however, of touching the sides of the port with my hands and recoiled at the slight electric charge of the hull.

The floor deck inside the port was of non-reflective, dull black composition that felt like sponge rubber, but with such a smooth surface that I sensed it was not. I noticed that the port was in actuality an airlock; and passing through a second port, I found myself in a circular room with a grilled round lamp shining down from the domed ceiling.

My senses, for some reason, were acutely sharp. A buzzing noise, like a swarm of bees, emanated from the ceiling fixture. I felt my whole body tingling from inside out. I felt slightly lighter, for some reason. I went and touched the walls. They were smooth like glass, but non-reflecting. The construction did not seem as alien as it seemed advanced. That’s the only way I could phrase it.

In the middle of the floor there was an upright cylinder that seemed to be rotating slowly, descending about seven feet from the ceiling overhead. When it came to a stop, a door slid open from the top. It beckoned me to step into it, which I did. The door closed and the cylinder, which apparently was an elevator, carried me to an upper deck. I found myself in what appeared to be a control room.

There were two men sitting at the control chairs. They turned around and smiled in a friendly manner. One of them waved his arm in a gesture. It seemed that he wanted me to sit near the panel with him. I did so and noticed the simplicity of the panel before me. There was a large screen in front of the two men that had lines moving along it, like an oscilloscope in a radio shop. The panels were inlaid with small knobs and buttons. There were no switches and levers in the whole cabin.

I was startled to see a female walk in. She sat at one of the panels. She was dressed in a gray coverall, differing only in color to the ones the men were wearing. I did not know whether to speak or remain quite. I tried to observe any strange physical characteristic. I noticed the men’s necks were heavily muscled and corded. They were wiry in build; and for their size, seemed extremely strong. I was the eyes that had the oddness of appearance, an oddness I could not define.

I began to get jumpy at the silence; and at the same time, did not want to be the one to break it.

Contact with the “Space Girl”

The girl must have sensed my discomfort. Walking over to another panel, she removed a transparent chart from an illuminated surface and handed it to me. Immediately after she picked up the chart, a shaded but honeycombed impression momentarily formed on the panel’s surface, but then quickly re-illuminated. The chart seemed similar to celluloid; but when bent, it would not crack or tear.

The diagram had a maze of lines and figures on it. Instinct told me it was a chart of sorts; but I could not recognize the form of writing. Nevertheless, there were a number of the configurations that were similar to ours. I felt a light touch on my shoulder. I turned around to notice another girl smiling at me in amused observation.

She said, “Your friend awaits you outside. I spoke to him; but he refused to enter our conveyance. The other three do not know your tongue. It was for that reason they did not speak.”

I noted that her voice was emotionless, yet friendly. She wore a garment similar to a sun suit. Her hair fell to her shoulders like a page-boy hairdo. Her eyes were intensely alive. On her head rested a red beret with a diamond-studded, golden bee pin.

I spoke to her in a statement. I said, “This is a spacecraft.”

She acknowledged with a nod. I asked, “Why did you contact us?” She shrugged and told me that their sensitive receivers had indicated a circuit which was in tune electrically with their transmission apparatus and decided that it deserved consideration. Upon my asking why they had come to the planet Earth, she answered with the fact that they (she and her crew) were to their civilization what our explorers and scientists are to our culture.

I fumbled in my jacket pocket for the pad and pencil I had taken from Vinnie’s radio bench. I held them up to her with a questioning glance. She nodded her head in approval and answered the following questions without hesitation, and in extreme patience. I wondered if now, that I had the supreme opportunity, I could ask the right questions. What was paramount in my mind? Everything had seemed to lose perspective and value. My very senses reeled under the implications.

As if in a dream, I acted. These are the questions I asked. It is for you, the believers and the unbelievers, to judge as to whether they were the proper ones or the wrong ones. What would you have done? What would you have asked?

Dominick Lucchesi sketched his own version of Commander Aura Rhanes based on his personal encounter with her along with the description provided him by California contactee Truman Bethurum. The original sketch is located in the Gray Barker Collection in Clarksburg, West Virginia, and was reproduced with permission along with a lengthy account of the Commander’s activities, on page 71 of my most recent book, Cosmic Ray’s Excellent Venus Adventure (Terra Alta, WV: Headline Books), 2017. All the Venus books are fully illustrated throughout and available on amazon.com while supplies last.

The “Q and A” Session

Q. What is your name and where are you from? A. My name is Captain Aura Rhanes and I am from the planet you know as Venus. Q. What is the driving force of this craft? A. The only way I could describe it in your tongue would be to state that it is an electro-dynamic turbine. However, I do not think you would understand fully how it operates. Q. What is the name of your ship and what is its purpose? A. Our ship is called the Spartacus. It is a scientific exploration vessel. Q. Do the Earth governments have a vehicle similar to yours? A. Yes, they have one, but only in general outline. The underlying principles are common; but your present level of technology is, as yet, too impractical for implementation. Q. Do you have a base on the planet Earth? If so, could you tell me where? A. We have several on the Earth, as well as the side of the Moon that you cannot observe from the surface of your world. There are bases in Antarctica and some areas of South America, as well as under your larger and deeper bodies of water. Q. Does your government intend to invade any of the nations of Earth? A. We do not have a type of government that you would readily understand. While we will not invade any of your nations, we will work clandestinely to see that any dangers directed towards us are averted. Q. What is wrong with the human race, as it is known? A. The humans do not think in a logical manner. They are quite emotional. Environmental conditioning and educational standards remain at the lowest order. Your teachers, for the most part, are no more intelligent than their pupils, at least as far as the whole conceptualization of the interplay between mind and logic is concerned. Q. What is the best way to gain knowledge? A. Knowledge may best be gained through its transmission by telepathic means, initiated by someone who knows how this is properly done and can assist the receiver in their development of cumulative memory channels. Q. Do we have to accept things on faith? A. There should be no such emotion as faith. It retards progress in the logic-mind-matter-energy–reaction, thus creating a barrier toward further thoughts on any specific trend one is pursuing. But saying this, I still have to admire the humans for their capacity to be inspired by it, to even risk their own lives if they fervently believe in something. That is the mark of a true revolutionary, to even die for the people, if necessary.

Living with the Humans

Q. Have you ever lived amongst Earth people?
A. Yes. But few and far between are the encounters we enjoy with men and women of Earth who possess a mind that is at the same time both exhilarating and progressive, in conjunction with our own.
Q. Do you enjoy physical contact with the opposite sex?
A. Yes.
Q. Well, isn’t that an emotion?
A. I wouldn’t say that it was an emotion in the manner that you are thinking, right at this moment. But it is a sense, much like pain, sight, smell, etc. There is a definite sense of physical feeling, but not emotional, as Earth people think. We’re not into all the drama you humans attach to it.
Q. I’m not sure I catch where you are going with that answer. Could you clarify this for me?
A. At this moment, Dominick, you were thinking in terms of the physical sense-love-contact. Eliminate the love and you have, well, sense-contact. Love is the term you people have used to rationalize a number of physical-mental senses that you are unable to isolate separately, and in their entirety to the whole of the logic-mental-concept.
Q. Then you are recommending that human race should not love?
A. I want you to understand the full array of senses that you term love; and then utilize these senses and you will arrive at something much better than the term you use to describe the conglomerate sensations that you term love.
Q. Do you consider, then, that these questions I am asking are of a low order, or even childish in some sense?
A. No, not at all; but they are the natural questions that would be asked by a person at your point of mental evolution, one who has explored the progressive thought concept.
Q. In what way do you attempt to accomplish this?
A. Collectively speaking, we accomplish this by living logically and attempting to impart our knowledge to lower orders of celestial life. Of course, in doing this, we can only divulge information that the particular beings in question are capable of assimilating in an intelligent and progressive manner.
Q. What is the average human intelligence rating?
A. In attempting to answer your question, I would require a complete census of the many intelligences found inhabiting this and other universes. Of course, were you to ask what your inherent intelligence rating may be, we can safely state that you are above the lower order in many ways, but in the higher orders ranking only in various phases of intellectual progressiveness.
Q. How does our philosophy differ from yours?
A. Philosophy, as you call it, is nothing but the effort of your minds working in conjunction with your ego and foolish emotional facilities attempting to prove and deceive yourselves into thinking that you are able to assimilate and propound knowledge of cosmic proportions; when in actuality, it is not practical nor progressive to attempt to understand a concept of proportions that your finite minds cannot follow.
Q. Can you propound one of these concepts?
A. I will attempt to answer your question to the best of my ability. First, you must understand that mere words do not convey the actual thought concepts of the individual. They only stir the mind and imagination of the persons who hear or read these words, so that they may interpret them in their own way of thought formation. The only way that a person can convey a mental concept is through the power of telepathic communication. Why should a person strive to understand the infinite, when he or she is finite? A person should strive to understand the mind only to the extent or term of…. a mind-time cycle of existence, and not beyond, as that is useless to the mind itself.

Really, you Earthlings have the foolish idea that it is possible to convey actual concepts by word pictures. Yet, everyone through thinking of the same thing would visualize the actuality differently in their own mind. Think back to your own Plato and his story of the shadows on the cave wall.

Significance of Radio Communications in Flying Saucer Encounters

What is highly significant about Lucchesi’s case is that it was facilitated by direct radio communications from a Venusian saucer pilot. Interestingly, contemporary radio astronomers utilize huge interstellar dishes or vast arrays of smaller radio telescopes linked to a central computerized network in the hope of finding and communicating with intelligent beings on other distant worlds or even in other dimensions lying outside our own space-time continuum. All of these unprecedented efforts come at a great cost to the taxpayers of many countries. While the discovery of radio transmissions directed to Earth by some distant outer space civilization would be a momentous event, and one that would ultimately justify the cost of the project’s public funding, a few researchers, both concerned scientists and interested ufologists, have speculated that perhaps extraterrestrials or ultra-dimensional beings, operating their craft in the vicinity of our planet, have already beamed sundry electronic communications to various contacts right here. This may have been going on since the very invention of radio. In my first book in the Venus Rising series, I elaborate on the early radio experiments and alleged extraterrestrial communications received by the electronics wizard, Nikola Tesla (b. 1856), beginning in the year 1898 and up through his death in 1943. Tesla claims that via his own invention of the so-called “Tesla-Scope,” he was in direct radio communication with super scientific civilizations on both Mars and Venus.

Rare photo snapped by Dominick Lucchesifrom Keller Venus Files depicts renowned anthropologist and archaeologist Dr. George Hunt Williamson descending from the dais at the First Interplanetary Spacecraft Convention held at Giant Rock, Landers Field, California, on Sunday, 4 April 1954. Lucchesi attended the convention on behalf of the Nexusflying saucer magazine.


Also, just two years before Lucchesi’s own extraterrestrial experiences, the renowned Arizona-based pioneer astro-archaeologist, Dr. George Hunt Williamson(1926-1986), was claiming that he was in “off-and-on again” radio communications with the occupants of a flying saucer from Venus. Williamson was also noted as being one of the witnesses to the master of the mystic arts George Adamski’s encounter with a Venusian saucer pilot named Orthon at Desert Center, California, on 20 November 1952. Williamson drew a sketch of Orthon as being a beautiful young woman. This was subsequently published in the 4 December 1954 issue of Valor: The Magazine of Soulcraft, headquartered in Noblesville, Indiana. This astounding sketch has also been reproduced in my book, Final Countdown: Rockets to Venus (Terra Alta, West Virginia: Headline Books, 2017).

He also took plaster casts of the extraterrestrial’s footprints, and forwarded these to a Livermore Laboratories physicist using the alias of “Peter Kor,” in December 1956. Kor, in a letter to Gray Barker of the Saucerian Press in Clarksburg, West Virginia, described the footprints as being from a small, size-6 shoe with rather indistinct markings. On Sunday, 17 June 2018, Northeast Ohio UFO investigator, Michael A. LaRiche, and I drove out to Mr. Kor’s home in the Greater Cleveland area and asked him about the footprints. Kor, now in his late 80s but in a very spry condition, noted that one of the footprints broke in half sometime en route to his home, after it was mailed from Dr. Williamson’s residence in Prescott, Arizona. Kor kept the footprints for three months before Dr.Williamson asked for them back; and he dutifully returned them. Unfortunately, he did not take any photographs of them while they were in his possession. Soon after the footprints were back in Dr. Williamson’s custody, the anthropologist-archaeologist set off for Peru in an attempt to discover evidence for the presence of ancient astronauts that once inhabited the western cordillera of South America, the Andes Mountains range.

“Did the footprints appear to be made from the imprint of a small woman’s or a girl’s shoe?” I inquired. “Yes, they did,” said Kor. He also explained that Adamski and Dr. Williamson had been corresponding with him when he was writing for various publications of Raymond A. Palmer such as Amazing Stories,Fate, Mystic and Search in the late 1940s and early 1950s, before the famous encounter at Desert Center. He invited the two most well-known saucer experiencers and researchersof the age to come up to Cleveland and present some lectures. Adamski and Dr. Williamson took Kor up on his offer and met for the first time right before they addressed a maximum capacity crowd of 500 in a downtown Cleveland hotel for an event promoted well ahead by Kor in conjuction with local research groups, the Cleveland UFO Society and the Cleveland Ufology Project. Kor described Adamski as a “true mystic at heart” and Dr. Williamson as a “bright-eyed and bushy-tailed researcher, a true seeker.”

At the same time that Dr. Williamson was asserting that he was talking with Venusians via a ham radio set, the United States Air Force established a TOP SECRET program code-named MQ707, the purpose of which was to establish telecommunications with highly advanced extraterrestrials in the hope of coaxing them to land one of their ships at Edwards Air Force Base in California. This was to take place on a certain date and time where President Dwight D. Eisenhower could clear his schedule, fly out to California and meet the flying saucer occupants in person.

At the forthcoming From Venus with Love conference, sponsored by Rob Potter’s thepromiserevealed.com and to be held on the slopes of Mt. Shasta from 27-29 July 2018, I will be revealing much more concerning Peter Kor and his connections with George Adamski and Dr. George Hunt Williamson, replete with some amazing photographs both current and past, harkening back to those early days of the contactee era.

Peter Kor, first generation ufologist and columnist for Raymond Palmer’s esoteric publications (L) with Dr. Raymond Keller (R), author of the Venus Rising Trilogy, in Mr. Kor’s Northeast Ohio home, on 17 June 2018. Photo was taken by Michael LaRiche.

In penultimate paragraph of letter above dated 8 December 1956 from “Kor” to Gray Barker, the Mystic magazine writer explains that only “some of the markings” are plainly visible from Orthon’s footprints, versus Williamson’s drawings of them in Adamski’s books that depicted more distinct lines throughout. Follow-up letter from Barker to Kor dated 12 December 1956, also displayed here, asks for clarification on this matter. Venus author Cosmic Ray Keller and Northeast Ohio ufologist Michael LaRiche interview Kor at his home in the Greater Cleveland area in June 2018 and confirm Orthon’s footprints were a small woman’s moccasin or shoe, size six, and that the markings were too indistinct to arrive at any comprehensive conclusions. The real name of the alias “Peter Kor” has been blocked out of both letters to protect his identity.


Origins of the Richard Shaver Mystery

Perhaps the most phenomenal of paranormal experiencers was Richard Shaver. Like Peter Kor, Shaver was intimately associated with Raymond A. Palmer and all of his esoteric publications emanating out of Amherst, Wisconsin. Competition among science magazines, both factional and fictional, was tight throughout the 1940s. Palmer needed an edge, and he found it in the early 1943, when he presented his associate editor at Amazing Stories, Howard Browne, with a letter that had arrived in the mail from Dick Shaver of Berwick, Pennsylvania, purporting to reveal the truth about a race of malicious beings called the Dero that were living under the surface of the Earth. Palmer had read the long letter from beginning to end and then asked Browne for his opinion about it. “I read a third of it,” said the associate editor, “and then I tossed it in the waste basket.”

Palmer fished the document out of the “circular file,” however, and kept it for future reference. He saw some great potential in Shaver as an up-and-coming science fiction writer. He polished up Shaver’s article and then ran it in its entirety in the March 1945 issue of Amazing Stories. Palmer was delighted. A flood of mail came in. Readers of Amazing Stories insisted the story was true because they had been plagued by Deros or Dero-like creatures for years. The result was spectacular with sales of Amazing Stories shooting up through the roof. Subscriptions were up four-fold.

Richard Shaver’s first novel, “I Remember Lemuria,” appeared in the March 1945 issue of Raymond A. Palmer’s Amazing Stories.

The Great Anomalist, John A. Keel, Pontificates

John A. Keel (1930-2009), the editor and publisher of Anomaly, and the author of numerous books and countless articles on flying saucers and other ongoing mysteries, was considered one of the greatest paranormal researchers of the twentieth century. In my opinion, one of Keel’s most important articles, “The Man Who Invented Flying Saucers,” appeared in the Winter1983, issue 41, of the Fortean Times (London, United Kingdom: Dennis Publishing). In an excellent biography of Raymond A. Palmer, Keel dedicates numerous paragraphs to Richard Shaver. Of particular bearing on the subject of this essay, Keel wrote the following concerning Shaver’s account of the Dero and the rising popularity of Amazing Stories:

John A. Keel edited the Anomaly newsletter, wrote countless articles and numerous books about our mysterious universe that he referred to as the “Super Spectrum.”


“Actually, Palmer had accidentally tapped a huge, previously unrecognized audience. Nearly every community has at least one person who complains constantly to the local police that someone- usually a neighbor- is aiming a terrible ray gun at their house or apartment. This ray, they claim, is ruining their health, causing their plants to die, turning their bread moldy, making their hair and teeth fall out, and broadcasting voices in their heads.

“Psychiatrists are very familiar with these ‘ray’ victims and relate the problem with paranoid-schizophrenia. For the most part, these paranoiacs are harmless and usually elderly. Occasionally, however, the voices they hear urge them to perform destructive acts, particularly arson. They are a distrustful lot, loners by nature, and very suspicious of everyone, including the government and all figures of authority. In earlier times, they thought they were hearing the voice of God and/or the Devil.

“Today they often blame the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or space beings for their woes. They naturally gravitate to eccentric causes and organizations which reflect their own fears and insecurities, advocating bizarre political philosophies and reinforcing their peculiar belief systems. Ray Palmer unintentionally gave thousands of these people focus to their lives.

“Shaver’s long, rambling letter claimed that while he was welding he heard voices which explained to him how the underground Deros were controlling life on the surface of the Earth through the use of fiendish rays.”

In the footnotes to this article, Keel points out that, “It is interesting that so many victims of this type of phenomenon were welding or operating electrical equipment such as radios, radar, etc., when they began to hear voices.”

For Dominick Lucchesi, this was the signal point for the entry of the Venusian observation patrol craft Spartacus’ Captain Aura Rhanes.

Doing her part to raise feminist consciousness, Evelyn Smith of Indianapolis, Indiana, a.k.a. Captain Aura Rhanes, the Commander of the Spartacus, a Venusian observation patrol craft deployed from the far side of our Moon, posed for artist Ed Emshwiller of the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, October 1953 issue (Volume 5, Number 4), to highlight Kay Roger’s story, “Letter to a Tiger,” about a powerful female revolutionary from outer space. The heroine can pass through inter-dimensional gates. In a few months after this portrait appeared on the cover of the science fiction magazine, Captain Rhanes would visit radio engineer Dominick Lucchesi near his New Jersey home. See http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?61375.


You must understand though the touch of your hand,
Makes my pulse react.
That it’s only the thrill of boy meeting girl,
Opposites attract.
It’s physical—-
Only logical.
You must try to ignore that it means more than that. Ooooh!
What’s love got to do, got to do with it?
What’s love?—-but a second hand emotion.
What’s love got to do—- got to do with it?
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?

-Tina Turner, “What’s Love Got to Do with It” in Private Dancer album, 1984
See http://www.kaltblut-magazine.com/tbt-tina-turner-whats-love-got-to-do-with-it/.

Rob interviews Frank Chile

Rob interviews Frank Chile

Rob interviews Frank Chile a featured guest at the Mt Shaasta summer conference this summer Summer Conference Invitation This interviews goes into the the myriad mysteries of the universe especially as it relates to our space family and open communiation with earth and her peoples.

Frank Chille

Opening to our Cosmic Family

Drawn irresistibly by the story of Valiant Thor, (the alien visitor present at the Pentagon in the 1950s) and by personal experiences in the Integratron at Giant Rock, CA., Frank Chille was called to research the UFO-ET Phenomenon.

Over time, besides his ‘real’ job in industrial and military consulting (which opened discussion with insiders) he has met a series of unusual contactees who have recorded their visitations with Beings of Light.

These Beings are connected to humanity’s Ageless Wisdom Tradition and come beckoning us to the highest vibration of our Cosmic Family. In this presentation, Frank will:

.Be speaking about several other virtually unknown Star Family contactees whom he met and known during his Life’s Path (one dating all the way back to 1920’s) •Share personal experience at the Integratron during weekend visitation at the Van Tassel home •Share info about a new technology product given to him as a gift to our planet •Present info about William Mills Tompkins, author of “Selected by Extraterrestrials: My life in the top secret world of UFOs, think-tanks and Nordic secretaries” and some of the extraordinary info William personally shared with him

Frank Chille has been a self-proclaimed seeker of Arcane Knowledge for the past 45 years. He is a student of metaphysics, ancient civilizations, and comparative religions and has firsthand knowledge of little known contactee experiences & unpublished manuscripts.

He has known individuals with unique talents and abilities doing advanced work (both openly & quietly) on this planet to accelerate consciousness and awareness. He has had exposure to advanced technology products and has traveled extensively throughout the US & lived abroad.

Frank has spoken publicly & conducted seminar on diverse subjects on both coasts as well as for the military on subjects including energy studies and lighting effects on health. Has done both radio and TV on diverse subjects. He has trained individuals as well as marketing teams and has conducted corporate forensic accounting for a Fortune 100 firm in three states.

The Victory of The Light Show Today I interview my old friend Frank Chile. Frank was very instrumental in teaching me about the benevolent space brothers and sisters in 1979 when was first having my experiences with Fred. His enthusiastic positive position is quite contagious and his knowledge and experience is second to none. Enjoy Frank as he shares wonderful stories that will enlighten and give you hope.

Warm Regards

Rob Potter

Rob interviews Jenessee Roy

Rob interviews Jenessee Roy

Rob interviews an amazing woman who rob calls the next level of Divine Godess Teacher. Jenessee shares her personal discovery as a sensitive and psychic intuitive. Her wealth of experience and knowledge are phenomenol declarations of her unique gifts. She speaks cleary without hesitation and her intuitive skills are superior and profound enjoy the show.

Jenessee Roy

Having unknowingly developed her Clairvoyant gifts at a very young age, Jenessee has always been drawn to the metaphysical side of life. At 16 Jenessee started studying chakra theory and other metaphysical sciences until theory took a back seat to practice. Today she is a practicing Clairvoyant and teaches others how to develop and fine tune their own unique gifts and talents. Jenessee facilitates this unfolding by using techniques and practices focused around a person’s energetic field and chakra system.

Documenting her own healing journey, Jenessee published her first book at 29, “Root to Crown, A 94 Day Chakra Journey” still unfolding the book turned into a channeled Oracle Deck and Workbook. These tools are now used to help teach others about the energy surrounding a unique soul journey.

Today, Jenessee is guided by spirit. She has found a connection between the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual fields surrounding not only her journey, but the journey of everyone she comes in contact with. Her purpose is to help others find and cultivate a loving, trusting and vibrant connection with divine source in their own authentic way.


Download her Free Books at the first link below to hear her amazing journey.



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Radio Show Entry

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This show on Victory of The Light Rob interviews Len Horowitz The man responsible for exposing that the AIDs epidemic has been a man made depopoulation program. His many books of exposing the Horrible programs like chemtrails in his book death in the air are legendary. However Lens work not only covers vaccination fraud but als the positive and healing technologies like the soffegio scale based frequencies of the “Love Frequency” 528. His book healing clebrations and many other wonderful educational tools can be found on his websites. You can follow him and through this interview and the many wbesites mentioned in the interview. Enjoy the amazing Len Horowitz.

Warm Regards Rob Potter

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Landing Page is http://pyramidone.wixsite.com/pyramidoneradio” this has all the Bells and Whistles.

Then there is for Mobile Phones / Cellular – We are doing very well on TuneIn can be listened to anywhere in the World at https://tunein.com/radio/Pyramid-One-Radio-s227959/

Pleiadian Talk with Guest Robert Potter and Host Rocken Larry Locken

On this episode of Pleiadian Talk Rocken Larry Locken welcomes a very very special guest Victory of Light radio host and creator of the website the thepromiserevealed.com Robert Potter to discuss his contacts with the Pleiadians, his interactions with Dr Fred Bell, Cobra, the Secret Space Program, the Bille Meier case, the caba/Illuminati and whatever else may come to mind.

ET First Contact Radio Robert Potter about The Event

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Robert Potter BIOGRAPHY
Rob has been researching healing and consciousness for over 40 years. He has given seminars all over the world including Egypt, Canada, Europe and USA. He has been experiencing UFO contacts since 1975. He is working with Cobra to prepare people for the “Event” He has traveled extensively is search for truth and has spent time with Sai Baba in India.

At 22 Rob was invited to the desert by “Master Hilarion” to meet a “Teacher”. The “Teacher” was one of the ET’s original earth military allies. Rob has spent much of his time studying the extra-terrestrials. He has met several ET’s in person. He has done many radio and newspaper interviews on sharing the profound aspects of the ongoing process we know as Interplanetary Cultural Exchange

Prepare For Change at From Venus With Love Conference

Posted by on May 17, 2018 in Prepare for Change | 2 Comments

Dear Promise Friends and Family,
This years Mt Shasta Summer Conference From Venus With Love is shaping up to be the best conference ever. One of the newest additions to this years conference is a special venue for Prepare For Change. I am allowing a representative of Prepare For Change to share the mission of Prepare For Change with my general audiance.

They will have a table to share and dissemintate information as well as a private room for meetings will be provided before and or after the regular program. I have a trong connection to the original Prepare For Change organization which has always remained a volunteer organization. I was very instrumental in developing the entire concept and major mission statement and theme of this world service organization.

I hope you will come to this conference as we discover the true history of the planet Venus and recieve intruction in the secret science of ascension. We will hear from contactees who have been to venus and will share the messages of love for earth and her people given by the ambassadors of Venus.

Omnec Onec the woman from Venus will share her knowledge about the process of growth that earth is going through in relationship to Venus and her transformation that occurred long ago. You will see pitures of real Venusians and hear the peaceful call to enjoin our consciousness with theirs in the spirit of fellowship and harmony.

We will look forward to seeing you there.
Less Than 70 days to get your tickets!
Warm Regards
Rob Potter

This is another interview on VOT Light with the amazing Scott Werner

Posted by on May 11, 2018 in Victory of the Light Radio Show | No Comments



This is another interview on VOT Light with the amazing Scott Werner. Rob learns about St Germaine from Scott who always has good news and information about health and healing. He will appear in Mt Shasta this summer at the conference “From Venus with Love” We hope you will be inspired to join us there. warm Regards Rob

This interview is part 2 with Peter Moon about the amazing discoveries in Romania

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This interview is part 2 with Peter Moon about the amazing discoveries in Romania. We talk about a deep underground complex created as a record repository made by interdimensionals and travelling to Egypt via a special tunnel. We discuss Radu Cinamar and the Department Zero and the amazing discoveries there. meant as a historical record in a type of akashic records. this is now given to mankind if we can wrest control of the disks from the cabal and freemason interests that seek to keep this information covered for all of humanity.

Rob Interviews Paolla Harris

Posted by on Mar 30, 2018 in Victory of the Light Radio Show | No Comments
In this show Rob interviews Paolla Harris the researcher from italy and author of numerous books. She is a promoter of real contactees who have physical and on going contacts. 
She has been with Luis Mostajo my friend with whom we are going to Bolivia this spring for more programed contacts. This interview was very natural and a good conversation as Paolla was very interested in my experiances and my relationships with some of the original contactees. 
This conversation ranges from Paollas contacts with some of the beings from APU or from the Alpha Centauri system. She decscribes them as quite tall from 7-10 feet with a very muscular body type. Her grounded approach and open understanding made us kindred spirits. 
We both feel the details and the messages of the real contactees need ot be shared with the world. We also discussed the messages of the original contactees of the 50’s from Giant Rock. We expect another interview with Paolla in the not too distant future.  
Enjoy this interview please join us in shasta this summer 
With Love From Venus 
Paolla Harris Portrait Photo








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Rob also announces this springs tour to Bolivia with Luis Maertens for initiation and Contact with The Great White Brotherhood and Confederation of Light. 

This journey is an exceptional tour and you may read about the 2017 Journeys first report here. The pilgrimage to the new shamballa part one

Please be sure to click the links of live sightings on film that we had in Bolivia and Peru in summer 2017 here Journey to Shamballa Report 2017.

Please see sign up For Bolivia Spring Tour here. Information to Sign Up + Itinerary For Spring April 23rd -May 1st 2018 Contact in Bolivia .

He announces and shares that this year this summer the conference returns to Mt Shasta better than ever before. With Info now up on his website. www.thepromiserevealed.com


The Vast Venus Conspiracy, Part II

Posted by on Mar 21, 2018 in Misc | One Comment

Dear Friends,

My Dear Friend “Cosmic Ray” who is coming to the conference From Venus With Love in Mt Shasta this summer is in the process of writing 3 books.

See Invitation to conference by clicking this link :


His current trilogy about Venus is becoming more popular day by day. He is sharing with me exclusive first releases on his ongoing articles and research in our neighboring sister planet.

As a physical contactee with several journeys to Venus an ongoing repeated physical contact experiences his stories are sweet warm and enlightening. Please enjoy all of these articles and share as widely as possible.




The Vast Venus Conspiracy, Part II

By Dr. Raymond A. Keller, a.k.a. the “Cosmic Ray,” author of the international awards-winning Venus Rising trilogy (Headline Books, Terra Alta, West Virginia, 2015-2017)


Graphic showing different space craft that have been sent to Venus

Dr. Raymond Keller, the Venus expert, wonders why the space powers of Earth have sent 43 probes to Venus- that we know of- at a cost in countless billions of dollars.  If Venus is the “hell hole” they want us to believe it is, then why weren’t most of these spacecraft redirected toward Mars or some other planet?  Think about it.  See http://www.chartgeek.com/space-probes-chart/.

Venus, alternatively known as the “Morning and the Evening Star,” being the third brightest celestial object to grace our skies, and coming in behind only the Sun and the Moon, has often served as the muse for artists, poets, scientists and many other seekers of illumination.  Here in the Western Hemisphere, we have come to learn of legends from the indigenous peoples of both Central and South America about gods descending to Earth from the Morning Star.  These celestial deities brought the Native Americans in these geographic areas diverse knowledge concerning agriculture, the arts, astronomy, medicine, etc.  Venus, being the second planet out from the Sun in its orbital path, is approximately the same size as the Earth, being only some 300 miles less in its diameter.  And being the closest planetary neighbor to our world, Venus has naturally become the focus of speculation down through the countless millennia of human history as being an abode of life similar, in many ways, to the biological forms that have evolved here on Earth.  This would include humankind.

By the early 1980s, however, the two greatest military powers of Earth,  the United States and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, had devoted significant resources in fabricating and sending robotic space probes to our sister planet.  These spacecraft radioed back signals to monitoring stations in their respective countries of origin reporting that it was just too hot on the surface of Venus for any kind of life, at least as we have come to know it, to exist there.  The temperature on Venus allegedly exceeds 800 degrees Fahrenheit.  That high of a reading also indicates that lead would literally melt on the surface of Venus.  Additionally, the Venus probes from the two superpowers supposedly indicated an atmospheric pressure at nearly 100 times greater than that of Earth.  The thick atmosphere itself, according to the data relayed back from the probes, was laden with sulfuric acid. 

Many reputable scientists on Earth, from all countries, began to question this data.  Based on their own optical astronomical observations, radar, radio spectroscopy, and high altitude balloon instrumentation readings obtained of Venus, they began to suspect that the space agencies of both the Soviet Union and the United States were not being truthful about the information on Venus that they were really garnering from the probe ships.  There were just too many discrepancies in the data secured from the probes and the already accumulated base of knowledge concerning Venus assiduously collected over time from Earth-based observation, experimentation and data analysis.  Initially, the public at large was disappointed with the probe findings; and this disappointment later turned into a type of complacency.  Lethargy with regard to Venus research just set it.  But then, as news of scientific objections to the reported findings of the American and Soviet probes emerged, more and more people worldwide began to suspect the existence of a vast and systematic cover-up of the probe data collected directly from the cloud-shrouded planet of Venus.  Anything discovered about Venus which would support the existence of life there, even as we know it, was being suppressed on the orders of the powers-that-be.  How long could this outrage be permitted to stand?

Russian Stamp commemorates Venus LanderSoviet postage stamp commemorates the Venus landers.

Soviet Venera 13 and 14 Probes Land on Venus

On 1 March 1982, the Soviet Venera 13 soft landed on Venus in a suspected region of volcanic activity.  Following this successful landing, on 5 March 1982, another Soviet probe, Venera 14, also soft landed on Venus a few hundred miles distant from the Venera 13 site.  However, and this is a big “however,” and that being there was a dramatic change in the landing procedures.  Both space craft separated from their parachutes at 41 kilometers above the Venusian surface.  That would be about 130,000 feet over Venus, whence the probes initiated landing by a process of aerodynamic breaking only.  Now it should be noted that both of these Venera probes had been substantially reconfigured from previous unmanned vehicles sent to the cloudy planet.  This time each of the spherical-shaped probes was capped with a sombrero-like aerodynamic shield.  This device served the purpose of slowing down the descent of the probe through the Venusian atmosphere. 

Need for the Shield

A prominent writer on space exploration, with access granted to the control room at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, commented that, “The dense atmosphere obviously would have made it otherwise impossible to bring these probes down to the ground by parachute.  But, in my estimation, here is where the conflict begins.”  Drawing on his expertise in covering such space matters, the writer noted that, “According to information released from all the earlier US and USSR Venus probes over the past 15 years, all of these probes that succeeded in landing on the planet used the 100% parachute landing technique.” 

The expert was wishing to remain anonymous.  Without a doubt, he would have been denied future access to the JPL control room had he been identified as the one who “spilled the beans” about this discrepancy in landing protocols.  But he continued with his explanation, saying that, “This indicates that all of our earlier probes never got there; and the data released was fabricated, unless Venus is, indeed, much like the Earth.” 

Wow.  What a concession.  Little by little the truth is outed. 

An analysis of the two Soviet spacecraft indicated a spherical shape under a sombrero-like covering.  This was a crucial piece of information in understanding the true nature of the Venera missions.  “But how so?”…. you may be thinking. 

Our space specialist surmised that, “The sombrero looks suspiciously like an electromagnetically-propelled device which would not be in need of a parachute descent on any planet.  This, in my opinion, would also explain why these probes got to Venus much faster than by solid or liquid fuel rocket propulsion.”  My own research into these probes indicates that the Venera 13 was launched on 31 October 1981, with the Venera 14 going up on 4 November 1981, both going up from the same facility of the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.  The two spacecraft did, indeed, reach the cloudy planet Venus in record time. 

Atmospheric Findings Held Back

By June of 1982, the world scientific community was anxiously awaiting information about the content of the Venusian atmosphere garnered from the two probes.  This data was in possession of the Soviet Academy of Sciences; but the directorate of the organization was refusing all requests for a release of the findings of the atmospheric studies.  They claimed that they had not finished with the project.  A spokesman for the scientific body did state, however, that, “The water content in the thick Venus clouds was about 0.1 percent by weight.”  Unfortunately, he would add nothing more.

There were also some special instruments designed for searching out lightning discharges, of which there seem to be an overabundance on Venus.  But there was something odd about this, too.  Scientists were dismayed that lightning could be found anywhere on Venus.  After all, how could lightning exist in an atmosphere supposedly loaded with clouds of sulfuric acid?  I’m not a space scientist, but I do know a little something about electricity.  And I think that the strong presence of sulfuric clouds would be considered as self-grounding.  The existence of such lightning storms seems so Earth-like.  I can imagine all of the scientists outside of the various space agencies just scratching their heads about this.  They are probably thinking to themselves, “Can I really believe anything coming out about Venus from the Soviets or the Americans?  What are they trying to pull over our eyes?”

Hot Times on Venus

Some of the other equipment installed onboard the probes had been built for the express purpose of detecting volcanism on Venus.  Naturally, any such heat-seeking devices would steer the vehicles away from the colder areas of Venus, those parts of the planet covered by mountain lakes or drifting snow, the effect being one of lowering the ambient temperature of these localized landmasses to a significant degree.  In the case of the heat-seeking probes, they would have missed these cooler sections of the planet completely, which is exactly what Venera 13 and 14 did, arriving in an expansive area peppered with volcanoes. 

In any event, the Soviet team apparently succeeded in finding active volcanism with their probes, for a spokesperson for the group declared that, “evidence in reference to open volcanic activity on Venus” had been detected by the two Venera craft.  Just imagine, if you would, a space probe sent to Earth from some alien world being guided over the active Bezymianny volcano on the Kamchatka peninsula far eastern Russia.  This geological feature is located at 56.07N 160.72E with a summit elevation of 2,800 meters above sea level.  Any measurements taken of the soil, air and temperature near the top of such an active volcano would certainly parallel any information that was coming back from Venus with the Venera probes in a similar region. 

I remember when editing the New Millennial Star of Hilmar, California, and as I was writing an article about volcanism on Venus, I drew a cartoon for the cover page that had a Venusian scout ship towing an incoming space probe from Earth over the rim of an active volcano and away from a beautiful towering crystal city off in the distance, nestled in the midst of a snow-capped mountain range.  Naturally, Venus is no more completely covered by volcanoes than the Earth is.  Nevertheless, after this Soviet success in landing two spacecraft on Venus in March 1982, the Houston Space Center released a report to the United Press International announcing that, “Russians find surface of Venus like volcanic soil.”  To the casual reader, most likely unaware that Venus is a globe nearly as large as the Earth, he or she might erroneously assume that these findings applied to all of Venus.  What we see here is just another obfuscation of the facts by NASA, again surely living up to its acronym of Never A Straight Answer, at least when it comes to the question of life on Venus, or any other planets.

Dr. Hal Masursky of the United States Geological Survey took note that of the two soil samples gathered by the Soviet Venus probes, the analysis of both rendered similar results.  The American scientist was privy to reading the report by Soviet astrobiologist, Dr. V. L. Barsukov, who stated that the surface samples from the Venera 13 and 14 were “very similar in chemical make-up to basalt, the volcanic rock commonly found on Earth” (See Barsukov, V.L. et al., 1982, “Geochemical studies of Venus surface by Venera 13 and Venera 14 spacecrafts,” in Russian, Geokhimia, 7, 899-919).  Dr. Masursky concluded that, “The stew pot on Venus is working in a similar way to Earth’s, now that we know the chemistry is the same.” 

(Note:  Follow the Cosmic Ray’s astute analysis of conditions on Venus with the next exciting installment of The Vast Venus Conspiracy, Part III, appearing on this website.  In the next and final segment, Dr. Raymond Keller looks at the surprising light conditions on the planet Venus, the presence of water on the surface, the existence of moderate temperature zones and the Soviet discovery of sundry life forms on a volcanic plateau.  You won’t want to miss it!  -The Editors)


The Vast Venus Conspiracy, Part I

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Dear Friends,

My Dear Friend “Cosmic Ray” who is coming to the conference From Venus With Love in Mt Shasta this summer is in the process of writing 3 books.

See Invitation to conference by clicking this link :



His current trilogy about Venus is becoming more popular day by day. He is sharing with me exclusive first releases on his ongoing articles and research in our neighboring sister planet.

As a physical contactee with several journeys to Venus an ongoing repeated physical contact experiences his stories are sweet warm and enlightening. Please enjoy all of these articles and share as widely as possible.




The Vast Venus Conspiracy, Part I

By Dr. Raymond A. Keller, a.k.a. the “Cosmic Ray,” author of the international awards-winning Venus Rising trilogy (Headline Books, Terra Alta, West Virginia, 2015-2017)

Picture of Venus coloured blue

There is a lot that NASA is not telling the public about Venus.  Those “in the know” recognize Venus as Earth’s sister planet.  Both worlds are approximately the same size, have rocky surfaces and water vapor in their respective atmospheres.  Fight the “powers-that-be.”  We want full disclosure now, not only about UFOs in general, but intelligent life on Venus.

Little did the inhabitants of Earth realize, in the closing quarter of the twentieth century and well into the first quarter of the twenty-first century, that interested eyes from our nearest planetary neighbor were closely observing all phases of our economic, military, scientific and social development, both from aloft in their interplanetary conveyances that we erroneously refer to as unidentified flying objects and on the ground by their agents infiltrating areas where humans were found at play and at work in all walks of life. 

With the exception of sensational reports of flying saucers and their occupants in the pages of the tabloid press, hardly a word about these phenomena appeared in the organs of mass market media.  And while the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) was sending probes to the other celestial bodies in our solar system, spokespersons for the agency and other departments of the national government were not telling us the truth about what these robotic ships were discovering about life and the conditions under which it flourishes on the other planets.

Return with me now to the thrilling days of yesteryear, the exciting decade of the 1980s when we were all dazzled by the pulsating rock music of such emerging recording artists as Pat Benatar, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Cindy Lauper, etc.  By 1982, the United States government was still trying to cover up the real findings of its Mariner 2 probe, sent to do a fly-by of Venus twenty years previously.  As detailed in my second book in the Venus Rising trilogy, Final Countdown:  Rockets to Venus (2017), issued reports from the space agency regarding extant but unfavorable conditions for life on Venus were constantly under assault from a growing body of concerned scientists amassing from many technically developed nations. 

By February 1982, in an attempt to beat many of these scientific critics to the punch, NASA spokespersons issued press releases declaring that “evidence is mounting that Venus once had an Earth-like ocean.”  The key word in this dispatch, that was carried by United Press International, is “once;” for the NASA hierarchy wanted the American people to think that while in the distant past life of some kind could have existed on Venus, planetary conditions there had long since deteriorated to the point that nothing in the context of life as we know it could possibly still be there today. 

NASA scientists affirmed that “abundant water may have sustained life there long ago.”  This grudging acknowledgement leads us to believe that we were finally getting closer to the truth of the matter.  Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, the intelligence agencies of the United States had accomplished a thorough job in discrediting the claims of the contactees in the eyes of the public, particularly those who attested to contact with Venusian flying saucer pilots, in particular Howard Menger of Highbridge, New Jersey, and the late George Adamski of Vista, California.  Both of these gentlemen were the authors of best-selling books on extraterrestrials from Venus coming to Earth in interplanetary spaceships to convey important messages for the future of humankind on this planet. 

Dr. J. Allen Hynek

Northwestern University astronomer, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, was contracted with the Air Force Intelligence Center at Dayton, Ohio, and its Project Bluebook team to debunk UFO reports in the 1960s.  Dr. Hynek is seen here proclaiming that George Adamski faked this photo of a Venusian scout ship, which in his estimation, was fabricated with “parts of a chicken brooder suspended from a fishing line.”  Later in life, Dr. Hynek would change his tune about UFOs, siding with ufologists like John A. Keel and Dr. Jacques Vallee in maintaining that the objects were real after all and possibly hailing from another dimension in a parallel universe.


NASA’s new policy of announcing the possibility of prior life on Venus was proving to be efficacious.   Given all of this opposition to the contactees, it is not surprising that only a few in the UFO research community openly questioned it.  But some did.  A spokesperson for the George Adamski Foundation in Vista, California, informed a local Southern California newspaper that, “Perhaps in time, when officials get ready, the statement ‘long ago’ will be changed to ‘now.’”

This was the first time, however, that scientists began to speak of contemporary Earth-like temperatures existing on Venus, albeit so long ago, maybe even billions of years in the past.  Nevertheless, these same researchers were still proclaiming that Venus is an “extreme, dry, cloud-shrouded furnace.”  At the time of these pronouncements, I remember thinking it odd that no explanations were proffered as to how Venus could possibly support these massive clouds, consisting largely of water vapor and sulfuric acid, and still be so scorching hot as to merit being called the “hellhole of the solar system.”

(Note:  Be sure and catch the next installment of The Vast Venus Conspiracy, here on this website, where Dr. Raymond Keller delves even deeper into this ongoing “mushroom process,” whereby NASA keeps us in the dark and feeds us a lot of manure about Venus being a dead, lifeless world.  The “Cosmic Ray” will bring us the amazing facts about life of an abundant variety on our sister planet, the enchanted orb of Venus.   –

Join Ray, Rob Potter, Omnec Onec and others this summer in Mt Shasta California.

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Rob Potter – Peter Moon – Radio Show 2 – VOL

Posted by on Mar 12, 2018 in Victory of the Light Radio Show | No Comments

Victory of The Light Radio Show

Hey folks here is part 2 of The victory of light interviews with Peter Moon. This Victory Of The Light Radio Show  Rob Interviews Peter Moon Author of many book on the deep end of the metaphysical spectrum.


Books written: The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time and the Montauk Series including Montauk Revisited, Pyramids of Montauk, The Black Sun, The Montauk Book of the Dead, The Montauk Book of the Living. Also Spandau Mystery, The Music of Time, Ong’s Hat, and Encounter in the Pleiades: An Inside Look at UFOs.


ALSO: Transylvanian Sunrise and the Transylvania Series, including Transylvanian Moonrise, Mystery of Egypt, The Secret Parchment, and his most recent work, The White Bat.

Peter Moon



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Rob also announces this springs tour to Bolivia with Luis Maertens for initiation and Contact with The Great White Brotherhood and Confederation of Light. 

This journey is an exceptional tour and you may read about the 2017 Journeys first report here. The pilgrimage to the new shamballa part one

Please be sure to click the links of live sightings on film that we had in Bolivia and Peru in summer 2017 here Journey to Shamballa Report 2017.

Please see sign up For Bolivia Spring Tour here. Information to Sign Up + Itinerary For Spring April 23rd -May 1st 2018 Contact in Bolivia .

He announces and shares that this year this summer the conference returns to Mt Shasta better than ever before. With Info now up on his website. www.thepromiserevealed.com