The Story behind that Valiant Thor & Crew Photo:   By Robert Potter

Below is a  Picture taken at Howard and Connie Menger’s home in Florida.

THE PICTURE BELOW IS OF COMANDER VALIANT THOR HIS BROTHER DONN AND JILL TAKEN IN HIGH BRIDGE NEW JERSEY

ANOTHER PICTURE TAKEN BY AUGIE ROBERTS IN HIGH BRIDGE COLOR

ABOVE IS A SOLO PICTURE OF COMMANDER VALIANT THOR

BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO IN THE BACK YARD OF THE CREW MEMBERS

I wanted to share this story as it wrote it on my teachings page in response to members question it contains some interesting information about Howard Menger another now passed light worker of the Old school vanguard of modern day UFO contacts.

I took Howard and Connie Menger to Egypt in 1991 for the 11:11 International UFO conference I had arranged with Power Place Tours..I mention this so you know I can tell you what Howard told me from the horse’s mouth so to speak. He said at the time the famous pictures of Val were taken he did not know Val was a Venusian.

The photographer was Augie Roberts and he did not take 2 years to tell DR Frank he called him the next day. Augie told Frank there was a man there who spoke with several attendees who spoke different languages. Val even spoke Xosha a African dialect with clicking and clucking sounds as well as several other languages very fluently!!! Augie very excitedly told Frank Val had no finger prints!!! Augie was sure he was ET and did click away.

By the way Frank has said Val has no belly button as he is a created being not born of a woman. Augie and Frank were obviously fairly close and Dr Frank was really into UFOs as he had written a book called Saucerama which was written before he met Val at the pentagon.

Howard who I sat next to on the plane that left from New York at 11:11 pm on 1-11-1991 headed to Egypt (funny coincidence huh) was not super forthright about some answers to the questions I posed to him. He was still a bit concerned for his family due to Govt. threats about what he knew. He would ponder and was somewhat circumspect.

He was very honest and I must say what great and warm souls the two of them– Connie and Howard–are. I asked Howard many questions I also asked Col Wendell Stevens many questions also that night, as he was on his way to Egypt with us that night! Zacharia Sitchin was across the aisle also though he had no ET experiences I found him pleasant enough but totally ignorant of any modern day UFO or spiritual information. He was a translator of Sumerian cuneiform script of which there were probably only 4 in the world at the time.

Now during our discussion that night as we crossed the Atlantic Howard told me that years ago he had built a small home made UFO out of earth parts based on images and just knowing in his head what would work! This UFO on its maiden voyage just took off from Pennsylvania where he was living at the time and landed in a field 400 miles away in Ohio.

The farmer who found it gave it to the FBI and they found Howard by the part numbers of these very advanced (for the day) electrical parts. They tracked him by the part numbers where these parts were sold to a store. The owner of the electrical store knew it was Howard who bought them as he was a regular at this store.

Howard was an electric sign maker by trade and that was his lifelong vocation. He told me that gravity is really a push from outer space and he simply neutralized this push and voila the ship was hurled by the earth’s rotation and flew really far really fast. He did not have any guidance or directional control he was just experimenting.

The govt. after tracking him down then asked him to do his country a service and help them research his ideas with lots of backing and he would be rewarded. He asked as his reward for helping the good old US of A govt. for no taxes and some social security checks for life which they did promise him.

He said he went to Colorado Springs air force base and worked underground and built another small scale model into which the govt. did place an additional   gyro system for control. The first flight the ship flew successfully.

This was in 1950 if I remember correctly? Anyway they then built a larger model and he and 4 other scientists later that year did fly that one successfully also. They took off and went to 50,000 feet and bought the disc down he said it was a very short but pleasant flight. They then sent him home.

He knew not to trust them so he handcuffed his original plans to his wrist and drove home to Florida I think it was but maybe he lived somewhere else at that time? Anyway he was at some out of the way lonely gas station and he went in to take a pee and as he is walking back to his car he said a gas station attendant watched with an open mouth as 2 govt. agents got out of a black limousine type car and one advanced towards him with a hypodermic needle.

I asked him if he was scared and he said “Hell no Rob I landed at Iwo Jima I am not afraid of anything”. He was a tall man when I met him and in the 50’s he was probably a strapping young man. He did block the hypo with his briefcase and kicked the agents ass. He waved the other Agent who had a gun over and the agent shook his head no.

He drove home without further incident. I don’t have to tell you he did not get his pension and did have to continue to pay taxes poor bastard.

He also told me some space people had taken him to the moon. He told me there is oxygen there but not very much and the atmosphere is very close to the surface he also said it was very hot. I asked where they were from and he said “they said they were from Venus” this sounded strange to me so I said do you think they were from somewhere else and he shrugged his shoulders. I asked him what was up there and he said he “went into a domed base” but would not elaborate further he seemed concerned about telling me more? Hmmmm!

I understand he had a family and he had already done his time in exposing the truth so his reluctance to talk was based on threats as he explained to me.

He also told me he had also built a beam type weapon that he tested and it melted the concrete wall in his basement and the dirt 6 feet behind the wall! He called the govt. and they came and tested it and he turned this weapon over to them. I was surprised because I wouldn’t trust them and thought he should have known better but that’s what he told me.

That plane flight was a long one and he also told me when he was first having contacts a govt. agent came to his house and threatened him and his wife. He said he got in his car and followed the agent back to the agent’s house in New York and kicked in the door and told the Agent “Now I know where you and your wife live! I don’t ever want you to dare threaten me again”. I liked his style on that one. He was a very interesting and sincere man.

He had many other wonderful stories many of which he chose to keep to himself. I never heard of Val Thor at Giant Rock but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. The space people walk amongst us whenever they want and they are beyond being caught ever.

Dr. Frank told me once he was picked up at a hotel in Vegas and some govt. agents were following him and Vice Commander TEEL when she said “watch this”… they were driving in Victor 1’s water powered car and they turned into a cul de sac and she pushed an “invisibility button” as they went around a corner and they both did laugh and enjoy the agents shocked face as he realized they had just disappeared!

I do not know if Val Thor was Menger’s primary contact. Menger did say that he felt at the time the picture was taken that maybe they were space people but many times but they do not always announce themselves.

I took Howard and Connie Menger to Egypt in 1991 for the 11:11 Internatinal UFO conference I had arranged with Power Place Tours..I mention this so you know I can tell you what Howard told me from the horses mouth so to speak. He said at the time the famous pictures of Val were taken he did not know Val was a Venusian. The photographer was Augie Roberts and he did not take 2 years to tell DR Frank he called him the next day. Augie told Frank there was a man there who spoke with several attendees who spoke different languages. Val even spoke Xosha a African dialect with clicking and clucking sounds as well as several other languages very fluently!!! Augie told Frank Val had no finger prints!!! Augie was sure he was ET and did click away. By the way Frank has said Val has no belly button as he is a created being not born of a woman. Augie and Frank were obviously fairly close and Dr Frank was really into UFOs he had written a book called Saucerama which was before he met Val at the pentagon.  Howard who I sat next to on the plane that left from New York at 11:11 pm on 1-11-1991 headed to Egypt (funny conincidence huh) was not super forthright about some answers to the questions I posed to him. He was still a bit concerned for his family due to Govt threats about what he knew. He would ponder and was somewhat circumspect. He was very honest and what great and warm souls the 2 of them( Connie and Howard) are. I asked Howard many questions I also asked Col Wendell Stevens many also that night as he was across the aisle also. Now Howard said years ago he had built a small home made UFO out of earth parts based on images and just knowing in his head what would work. This UFO on its maiden voyage just took off from Pennsylvania where he was living at the time and landed in a field 400 miles away in Ohio. The farmer who found it gave it to the FBI and they found Howard by the part numbers of these very advanced (for the day) electrical parts were sold to a store and the owner knew it was Howard who bought them, as he was a regular at this store.

Howard was an electric sign maker as that was his lifelong vocation. He told me that gravity is really a push from outer space and he simply neutralized this push and wala the ship was hurled by the earth’s rotation and flew really far really fast. He did not have any guidance or directional control he was just experimenting.

The govt after tracking him down then asked him to do his country a service and help them research his ideas with lots of backing and he would be rewarded. He asked for no taxes and some social security checks for life, which they did promise him. He said he went to Colorado Springs air force base and worked underground and built another model that the Govt. did place a gyro for control and at the first flight the ship flew successfully.

This was in 1951 if I remember correctly? Anyway they then built a larger model and he and 4 other scientists later that year did fly that one successfully also. They took off and went to 50,000 feet and bought the disc down he said it was a very short but pleasant flight. They then sent him home. He knew not to trust them so he handcuffed his original plans to his wrist and drove home to Florida

I think it was Florida but maybe he lived somewhere else at that time? Anyway he was at some out of the way lonely gas station and he went in to take a pee and as he is walking back to his car he said a gas station attendant watched with an open mouth as 2 Govt. agents got out of a black limousine type car and one advanced towards him with a hypodermic needle. I asked him if he was scared and he said “Hell no Rob I landed at Iwo Jima I am not afraid of anything”. He was a tall man when I met him and in the 50’s he was probably a strapping young man. He did block the hypo with his briefcase and kick the agent’s ass.

He waved the other Agent who had a gun over and the agent shook his head no. He drove home without further incident. I don’t have to tell you he did not get his pension and did have to continue to pay taxes poor bastard.  He also told me some space people had taken him to the moon. He told me there is oxygen there but not very much and the atmosphere is very close to the surface he also said it was very hot. I asked where they were from and he said “they said they were from Venus” this sounded strange to me so I said do you think they were from somewhere else and he shrugged his shoulders.

I asked him what was up there and he said he “went into a domed base” but would not elaborate further he seemed concerned about telling me more? hmmmm I understand he had a family and he had already done his time in exposing the truth. He also told me he had also built a beam type weapon that he tested and it melted the conactee wall in his basement and the dirt 6 feet behind the wall!

He called the Govt. and they came and tested it and he turned this weapon over to them..I was surprised because I wouldn’t trust them and thought he should have known better but that’s what he told me. He also told me when he was first having contacts a govt agent came to his house and threatened him and his wife. He said he got in his car and followed the agent back to the agent’s house in New York and kicked in the door and told the Agent “Now I know where you and your wife live! I don’t ever want you to dare threaten me again”.

I liked his style on that one. He was a very interesting and sincere man. He had many other wonderful stories many of which he chose to keep to himself. I never heard of Val Thor at Giant Rock but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. the space people walk amongst us whenever they want and they are beyond being caught ever. Dr Frank told me once he was picked up at a hotel in Vegas and some govt agents were following him and Vice commander TEEL when she said watch this… they were driving in Victor 1’s water powered car and they turned into a cul de sac and she pushed an “invisibilty button” as they went around a corner and they both did laugh and enjoy the agents shocked face as he realized they had just disappeared!

I do not know if Val Thor was Mengers primary contact. Menger did say that he felt maybe they were space people many times but they do not always announce themselves.

I have had this experience at the inner circle meetings several times once when I took the Oath to be a member of the Royal order of Melchizedec. It was after lunch ad Dr Franks said it was time to swear me in. I was sort of not very serious about it and something told me listen up this is important and you better take this seriously..it was like a shock of thoughts/awareness.. many other members (not all inner circle members did join the order of Melchizadec) gathered around me to place their hands on me for the swearing in. It was then I noticed this Brother in long shoulder length hair who was not present on Saturday or before lunch break come over to me and place his hand on my head(the other members had their hand on my shoulders and back etc.) he looked to be about 30 he had piercing blue eyes and I was locked into his eyes the entire time As I repeated my oath.

I will share the oath sometime in the future. Anyway I looked for him later and he was gone. I went up to Frank later at the break and asked him if any crewmembers attend the meetings and he just smiled like a cat that ate a canary. At another meeting there was a women who looked like Jill and I knew she was form the ship and I kept looking at her she was very attractive and she looked familiar. My girlfriend was getting jealous because every time I looked at her she would Just smile very wide and lovingly and even did bat her eyelashes a bit.

I know the rule so i did not make a scene or draw attention to her or shout to the group “Someone from Victor one is here”. How stupid that would have been. Anyway at break I did get next get her and asked her some questions. I asked her if she has ever seen a UFO just to see what she would say and she said” not really” and then she paused and looked directly at me and said ” Except for in New Jersey, I did see a UFO in New Jersey once”

She gave a knowing nod like telepathically saying “good for you rob you are awake enough to pick me out”. It was revealed to me later as I looked at the picture in Howards back yard that she was Jill. That was another of my personal experiences, which I will never be able to prove but I do know in my heart it was real, and the only person it means anything to is me. It does bolster my faith and knowing. I have several other similar contacts through the years.

As far as why Val chose Dr Frank is because he has a soul contract as Val knew about him in his younger days. Frank was an outspoken preacher talking about UFOs and showing the picture of Val in a church in Wash. DC and talking about him being from another planet when a pentagon Worker, a Black woman named Nancy Warren did flash her badge to Dr. Frank after his lecture as he was signing his book Saucerama for the attendees and interrupted him. She said I must speak with you. In private to him she said, would you like to meet that man in the picture Valiant Thor? He said yes and the rest is history.

Who knows why they chose him most likely because he is a man of great sincerity honest loyalty integrity and he dos love the master Jesus and the whole truth and was fearless in his determination to know and share the truth. hope this answers some questions keep em coming

In The Light of Our Radiant One

Rob